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# 1dukejason Nov 28 2017, 19:43 PM
Hello all,

I am a moderator for the official Dawn of War 3 forum, and have jumped aboard GR as an editor in order to salvage this forum for our community. GR.org is the only website that I know of that has real replay support for DOW 3. I think its very important that all of us that are into this game, come together to help grow this forum,as well as help grow our community. I have some questions for the community on GR.

What changes or improvements would you like to see on this forum on GR?

What changes and improvements would you like to see for DOW 3?

What is your perspective as far as the direction DOW 3 is going in?

Please be civilized with your response. Thanks in advance for your feed back.u0udiablo.gif

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# 2Spirit. Nov 28 2017, 21:21 PM
I dont know why forums in general have become so unpopular. Gr is a pretty damn nice website, i mean its well structured and looks pretty "professional"

Cant really tell why not more people are attracted to visit gr

The direction as far as where dow3 is going and its pespective? Hmm hard to tell they still need to make some balance tweaks, also this game needs more races before that happens we dont even need to talk about dow3 cause it will stay then with a low player base. Also the game needs more content, more units, more maps the devs need to surprise us with a big addon maybe even add 2 races at once and then but only then i see dow3 growing in players and popularity.

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# 3dukejason Nov 28 2017, 23:40 PM
QUOTE(Spirit. @ Nov 28 2017, 17:21 PM) *

I dont know why forums in general have become so unpopular. Gr is a pretty damn nice website, i mean its well structured and looks pretty "professional"

Cant really tell why not more people are attracted to visit gr

The direction as far as where dow3 is going and its pespective? Hmm hard to tell they still need to make some balance tweaks, also this game needs more races before that happens we dont even need to talk about dow3 cause it will stay then with a low player base. Also the game needs more content, more units, more maps the devs need to surprise us with a big addon maybe even add 2 races at once and then but only then i see dow3 growing in players and popularity.



I want to focus on the folks that play. I am currently organizing a tournament for early 2018,we have a great broadcaster that is going to do twitch. I am going to update our portal at least once per month with any relevant news.

I thinks its very important to use the space on GR to meet up and play as well as to pick each others brain for strategy. Il do my part for a long term and help to support this community,but its important for other people to step up and create activity.

Its a pleasure to meet you Spirit.

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# 4ScuttleShip Nov 28 2017, 23:54 PM
QUOTE(Spirit. @ Nov 28 2017, 21:21 PM) *

I dont know why forums in general have become so unpopular. Gr is a pretty damn nice website, i mean its well structured and looks pretty "professional"

Cant really tell why not more people are attracted to visit gr

The direction as far as where dow3 is going and its pespective? Hmm hard to tell they still need to make some balance tweaks, also this game needs more races before that happens we dont even need to talk about dow3 cause it will stay then with a low player base. Also the game needs more content, more units, more maps the devs need to surprise us with a big addon maybe even add 2 races at once and then but only then i see dow3 growing in players and popularity.

People prefer streams these days to get their content generally. It's easier and fun I guess. Would be interesting to see if they were to add multiple races at once though. Would be good to see the game growing again.

Equally a pleasure to meet you.

QUOTE(dukejason @ Nov 28 2017, 23:40 PM) *

I want to focus on the folks that play. I am currently organizing a tournament for early 2018,we have a great broadcaster that is going to do twitch. I am going to update our portal at least once per month with any relevant news.

I thinks its very important to use the space on GR to meet up and play as well as to pick each others brain for strategy. Il do my part for a long term and help to support this community,but its important for other people to step up and create activity.

Its a pleasure to meet you Spirit.

Interested to see where this tournament is going. Definitely an important space (of course I'd say that I'm from here) but honestly it really is important. I've learnt so much over the years from reading and commenting on posts here.

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# 5DaDokisinX Nov 29 2017, 05:03 AM
In my opinion, DoW3 needs more content, namely more races. Part of the appeal of playing 40k is playing YOUR race. Three races is too few for a 40k game. This decision would've made a bit more sense if Relic planned to release race DLC's semi-regularly like CA does with Total War, but this has clearly not been the case. Also, the lack of races to choose from in multiplayer is exacerbated by the fact that multiplayer is the only way to replay to game, as single player is really a 1-2 time experience. Maybe skimping on the multiplayer content would've made sense with a Dark Crusade/Total War style single player, but that is not there either.

I can tell you that I very much enjoy DoW3, but even I get tired of playing Space Marines (the only race that I like to play out of the three) every game. I am only playing them since they are the most similar to the Chaos Marines, which I am waiting everyday for.

Think of it this way: what if there was a MOBA game but with only 15-20 heroes to choose from? Even if the heroes are well implemented, designed, and function within a well-made game, many players I imagine would get bored of the game rather quickly. Not only cannot they not choose from a variety of heroes, but the will have probably they same match ups over and over. This type of gameplay is more niche and really only appeals to the hyper-competitive gamers, which is not DoW's main audience anymore (an older crowd) as well as increasingly not part of the strategy genre.

More races would do a lot to give Dawn of War it's identity as a 40k game as well as make the gameplay more fun and diverse. I can't really think of something else to revitalize Dawn of War except maybe some huge single player update/content (which is more unlikely/difficult to implement imo).

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# 6VindicareX Nov 29 2017, 05:32 AM
we could all spam the forum boards with topics that people looking up balance forums might search - get on that search engine algorithm. It would require a concerted effort by many users here, but conceivable...

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# 7GuruSkippy Nov 29 2017, 08:54 AM
QUOTE(dukejason @ Nov 28 2017, 21:43 PM) *

What changes or improvements would you like to see on this forum on GR?

Not sure what you can change to be honest.
The official forum is quiet too, only the same 20 people are writing.
And watching replays have lost a lot of interest for me, we have streams now, and I don't have enough time to watch replays anyway, especially when they are long.

QUOTE(dukejason @ Nov 28 2017, 21:43 PM) *

What changes and improvements would you like to see for DOW 3?

A rework + new races.
I don't think new races will revive the game long enough. People just don't like this game.
But a rework alone won't work either imo.
Also, a good campaign with replayability. Dark crusade style (DOW2 campaign style would cost Relic way too much time and money to develop).

I think Relic really understimated the effect of removing squad leaders/squad weapon upgrades/sync kills/realistic covers, or adding a mario angelo, bubble shields, not even talking of the power core mode. Me too to be honest. I defended all this decisions at one point, but people just don't care.
Also, I think DOW3 is too hard for the majority of DOW players. It's extremely unforgiving. DOW1 had morale system + reinforce everywhere + low lethality, DOW2 had magical retreat button. DOW3 has only your skill (wich I like), and totally unnatural refund on death (wich I don't). But people don't like it. It's also one of the reasons why DOW3 has been accused to be a SC2 clone imo.

PS : this is what I think, I do not hold the Truth, no one does.




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# 8Spirit. Nov 29 2017, 14:25 PM
If you want to focus on the folks that play then i am one of the right persons as i probably have the most games played in dow3 with about 3000 mp games. I dont think there is anyone with the same amount of games as i have, maybe only handfull of people, if all.

I will try to participate in every tourney to come no matter if its 1v1 or a teamgame tourney. I have not given up hope for dow3 just yet, but the devs need to do the main job to attract more people and make this game more alive not us players.

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# 9Technique Nov 29 2017, 22:19 PM
QUOTE(dukejason @ Nov 28 2017, 21:43 PM) *

What changes and improvements would you like to see for DOW 3?

I would like to see an expansion that adds more macro and moves away from the point capture style economy to something with a bit more depth.

That's for multiplayer anyway.
If they release an expansion without those things I'd still get it for the campaign.
Which I actually quite enjoyed in this game.



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# 10Carnevour Nov 30 2017, 21:14 PM
They should have removed the powercore mode from the game, its absolutely limiting. Also i noticed relic are really bad at designing maps.

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# 11dukejason Nov 30 2017, 21:55 PM
QUOTE(Carnevour @ Nov 30 2017, 17:14 PM) *

They should have removed the powercore mode from the game, its absolutely limiting. Also i noticed relic are really bad at designing maps.


There are many people who enjoy power core, if you can pls try to stick to the topic, do you have any feed back as far as the future of our community on gr?

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# 12Carnevour Dec 1 2017, 07:57 AM
QUOTE(dukejason @ Nov 30 2017, 21:55 PM) *

There are many people who enjoy power core, if you can pls try to stick to the topic, do you have any feed back as far as the future of our community on gr?

All 1000 of them? But im just shitposting. Sadly i dont really see anything that could save DoW3 from being a failure which pains me so much. I tried to play it and get into it but in the end i gave up because at least for me its boring.
I really tried to stay positive and enjoy it but alas it wasnt for me. It doesnt help that there is barely no content in the game, not even a spectator mode in 2k17?!

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# 13dukejason Dec 1 2017, 20:19 PM
QUOTE(Carnevour @ Dec 1 2017, 03:57 AM) *

All 1000 of them? But im just shitposting. Sadly i dont really see anything that could save DoW3 from being a failure which pains me so much. I tried to play it and get into it but in the end i gave up because at least for me its boring.
I really tried to stay positive and enjoy it but alas it wasnt for me. It doesnt help that there is barely no content in the game, not even a spectator mode in 2k17?!


I totally understand what your saying, but what I want to do is focus on the people that are playing the game and have fun. But I can appreciate your view point.

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# 14Spirit. Dec 22 2017, 07:07 AM
Will see what relic has in their pocket for us. In january we should know more about what they want to bring us in february. I would expect extra content to be released, balance changes and maybe but only maybe they will announce also a new race. All of that could actually bring players back and to bring new players and players that are waiting for extra races.

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# 15VindicareX Dec 22 2017, 09:11 AM
Yes, the game is in dire need of content variety.


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