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Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 3 2013, 22:06 PM

Some of you might remember I made a topic about Europa Universalis 3, 3 years ago. I tried to get some people into this game and then play it multiplayer but it never worked out in the end. A few months ago Europa Universalis 4 has been released and its awesome so I try again. Things have become clearer and noob-friendly and the UI and graphics are way better now.
If you dont know yet. In this game you can play as 1 of 200+ countries in the entire world in the timespan of 1444 until 1800 or so. The focus is on state/empire building and its all quite realistic and complex. The thing I like the most is that the AI can be a real challenge and other states will respond to how you play. They will ally you when you have the same interests and when you're playing aggressively, states will combine their strength to keep you in check. As a result I have lost as many wars as that I've won in my current game as Venice. As we speak, the French behemoth is destroying me, Spain, England and Bohemia(holds half of Germany) in a war. The whole of Europe is allying against France without much success as of yet. Just like the Napoleonic wars in real life.

This is what the game looks like when you're playing.
http://thefreelancegamers.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/2013-08-16_00002.jpg


This is what the game looks like when you zoom out.
http://i.imgur.com/sbSXcrC.jpg


Rarely also plays this but has played it too much and is bored now. So is anyone else interested?


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Posted by: rarely Nov 5 2013, 10:30 AM

Currently playing as the ottomans again now. Tried to expand west instead of east this time and im having pretty fun tongue.gif in one point i had the whole western against me xD. This is my turkish empire for now, still 200 years to go

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Castille got in a personal union with burgundy and england xD this kinda fucked things up for france and england cant form great brittain now sad.gif

The HRE is a stupid thing too

Posted by: rarely Nov 5 2013, 11:43 AM

im fucked now, western units too strong

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Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 5 2013, 17:32 PM

You should try to westernize I guess. And perhaps you should start focusing on other fronts so the Christians will stop hating you and start fighting each other again. Your France seems to be rather weak compared to my scary France.

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My game is getting quite strange ATM. Austria is almost destroyed. As a result the Netherlands and Flanders! have formed. I try to stay out of the HRE mess mostly. On my east is the very powerful alliance of Kazakh, Crimea and Ottomans which seem to dominate Asia and eastern Europe. The ottomans field an army of 140.000 men commanded by epic generals and have by far the biggest navy with 167 ships. On my west is the even scarier France. I've spend most my game trying to improve my army just to be able to resist France. Thankfully I've been allied to Spain, Bohemia and England the entire game.

Posted by: rarely Nov 8 2013, 16:13 PM

went with france trhis time. got big joined the hre and conquered most of spain biggrin.gif and now i am in world war 1

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Posted by: ScOtSmAn Nov 9 2013, 14:58 PM

looks familiar

Posted by: rarely Nov 9 2013, 22:46 PM

?

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 10 2013, 09:53 AM

You keep picking the overpowered nations. The game is way more fun as a smaller nation IMO.

Posted by: ScOtSmAn Nov 10 2013, 15:05 PM

http://eu4wiki.com/Scotland

im in

Posted by: rarely Nov 10 2013, 21:24 PM

nah byzantium was also easy, i had way more fun with big nations

Posted by: krew Nov 12 2013, 19:16 PM

Please, westernize the Islam parts of the world, and change the course of history for the better for these innocent virtual souls.

Posted by: squaak Nov 12 2013, 22:04 PM

QUOTE(krew @ Nov 12 2013, 21:16 PM) *

Please, westernize the Islam parts of the world, and change the course of history for the better for these innocent virtual souls.

The only way to fight Islam properly was the Christian alliance of some European countries.
Or with a lot of patience, determination and faith, like they achieved it in Spain between 718 and 1492.

Obviously that has nothing to do with modern american "westernization", which directly contribued to kill the whole millenar european culture, much more than anything Islam achieved during all these centuries.
The biggest european threat comes from the West, and from a certain City, from a certain island in the north, which always managed to make it fail any serious unification of Europe.

So if you want to change history, solve this problem before even trrying to go "East".

Posted by: krew Nov 12 2013, 22:28 PM

Was making a joke, squaak...

Posted by: rarely Nov 13 2013, 11:32 AM

Well squaak is right about the game xD. You need a big europe alliance if you want to beat the turks. If you are the pope of the catholic faith you can call for a crusade on them which gives you extra bonusses when you go to war with them ^^

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 13 2013, 14:38 PM

Only in the begin of the game. Lategame the units of the Ottomans are way worse than their European counterparts. This becomes very obvious when you attack an army which isn't lead by all the godly generals they seem to get.

This is my current game, still as Italy, which has become quite easy. After countless wars we've been able to break the huge France. I helped England to reconquer their Island so we had 4 strong nations surrounding France. I've now been able to release Burgundy and Guyenne and a few minor nations which hold a significant part of mainland France. The Ottomans are big but unable to stop me from conquering more and more Muslim nations in Africa. I'm now planning on breaking my alliance with Spain to conquer the Mediterranean islands. Spain is useless anyway.
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Posted by: trve^viking Nov 14 2013, 21:52 PM

i borrowed/played crusader kings 2 today, its another game from paradox. it looks fun but i got no clue how it works tongue.gif

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 14 2013, 23:20 PM

I dont like it as its just so messy. It's all about controlling titles instead of provinces. If you control a duchy, you're actually in possession of vassals instead of counties(provinces). These counts have their own will and will often attack each other or you. You're only holding a few counties yourself of which you probably only control your capital. The other cities/castles/churches in the country are controlled by yet another lower kind of vassals. You dont really own any land. As a duchy you're a vassal yourself to a king which is in turn a vassal to an emperor. This is where it gets really messy as parts of duchies or kingdoms are often not part of the same kingdom or empire or it can even be independent. Or its just simply at war with itself or only a part of it is at war with someone. Now of course a title also can be a de jure title, which is the territory a title ix expected to hold but it often does not which can give further complications because a territory is part of a duchy but also of another de jure duchy.
While you're playing, one of your main goals is to gather as much and as significant titles as possible. When you die your heir will only receive a few of these titles. The rest will go to other family members or just someone outside your family with a stronger claim, so everything you've achieved is constantly split up and it can even get in war with itself.
Its also really annoying to keep track of your entire court, huge family tree, vassals, higher lords, the families that hold titles that are interesting to you, keeping an eye on the inheriting lines of all the titles you're holding or aspire to hold, finding out who is at war with who and what their connection is to you and of what they're part of etc.. Not my kind of game.

Posted by: trve^viking Nov 15 2013, 00:40 AM

guess its about to lead"your" family to the top and build some relationship to the dynasy, medieval 2 had that aswell where you could watch the family tree over 5 generations and remember most people, what they did and what battles they fought.
but you are right, its a bit messy, i started as an irish king with 1 vassal and got around 30 people in my main town with different connections to other countrys + few children. will see how it turns out after a few more hours.
i also heard theres a game of thrones mod for it.

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 15 2013, 10:52 AM

Yes you're trying to improve your dynasty, but lots of things are out of your control. One game I played I was a Spanish duke and I reconquered big parts of Muslim lands. As a result when I died my new character got into a war with his own family so I only had a small part of it left. A few generations further I ended up married to the Byzantine queen with no connections to Spain whatsoever.
Personally I prefer to conquer and control land instead of titles and people as land isn't going anywhere.
BTW I doubt you have only one vassals. You will have at least 3 vassals in each county.

Posted by: rarely Nov 15 2013, 11:45 AM

My latest game as teutonic order,

Beaten the shitt out of poland and lithuania first with a strong alliance from bohemia, hungay, muscovy and austria. formed prussia and then heading west to form germany. Got a PU with bohemia, bavaria and norway and later on i allied with france. Bohemia was big when the king of burgundy died and they got all their lands as the emperor


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Ein Reich, ein Fuhrer!!

got kinda bored now again and got everyone in a coaliton against me again xD


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Posted by: trve^viking Nov 15 2013, 13:04 PM

QUOTE(Opsnyder @ Nov 15 2013, 10:52 AM) *

Yes you're trying to improve your dynasty, but lots of things are out of your control. One game I played I was a Spanish duke and I reconquered big parts of Muslim lands. As a result when I died my new character got into a war with his own family so I only had a small part of it left. A few generations further I ended up married to the Byzantine queen with no connections to Spain whatsoever.
Personally I prefer to conquer and control land instead of titles and people as land isn't going anywhere.
BTW I doubt you have only one vassals. You will have at least 3 vassals in each county.

sounds realistic tongue.gif ithink it can be fun not to know what happens next and where you will end up, its more like you play a role in the world without the goal to get to the top and own everything.
i really startet with 1 vassal but got 3 more now, 1 cause i had a war with a neighbour and no idea where the other 2 came from.
also my king was in a muslim prison from 1 moment to another without me knowing that he left ireland biggrin.gif

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 15 2013, 14:42 PM

Is your king a vassal of someone else? If so, he might be asked to lead an army of his lord.

And take a look at one of your counties. You will see that each consists of several towns, churches and castles which are all led by a vassal. Also take a look at the amount of money and troops you get from each of these vassals. If they dont like you, you barely get anything.

QUOTE(rarely @ Nov 15 2013, 13:45 PM) *

My latest game as teutonic order,

Beaten the shitt out of poland and lithuania first with a strong alliance from bohemia, hungay, muscovy and austria. formed prussia and then heading west to form germany. Got a PU with bohemia, bavaria and norway and later on i allied with france. Bohemia was big when the king of burgundy died and they got all their lands as the emperor
Ein Reich, ein Fuhrer!!
got kinda bored now again and got everyone in a coaliton against me again xD

What year is that?

Posted by: rarely Nov 15 2013, 14:44 PM

1700

Posted by: BestDemoRebelAmbushEarth Nov 15 2013, 15:34 PM

Is this free to download?(i forgot) Might give this game a try looks interesting. Also can't play games online I think due to heavy medication. Will most likely be picking ''ein reich, ein fuhrer''. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 15 2013, 16:08 PM

It isnt free to download. Dont expect this game to be easy though. Especially the first games you will have a hard time understanding whats going on.

@Rarely you really play a lot of EU4. Im still playing as Italy which is my second game.

Posted by: rarely Nov 15 2013, 16:25 PM

Yeah thats what happens when you are jobless/schoolless

this game needs to much brain for you arnold and you wont have a clue when you are first playing it xD

Posted by: BestDemoRebelAmbushEarth Nov 15 2013, 16:27 PM

If you and Opsnyder can play it, i'm sure I got it mastered within a few days. tongue.gif Well not in current state, haha.

Posted by: trve^viking Nov 15 2013, 16:47 PM

QUOTE(Opsnyder @ Nov 15 2013, 14:42 PM) *

Is your king a vassal of someone else? If so, he might be asked to lead an army of his lord.

yea, not from the start but i accidently clicked on that. he also married the queen of that country when i tried to get it off and is now king of some part of spain.
QUOTE(Opsnyder @ Nov 15 2013, 14:42 PM) *

And take a look at one of your counties. You will see that each consists of several towns, churches and castles which are all led by a vassal. Also take a look at the amount of money and troops you get from each of these vassals. If they dont like you, you barely get anything.
What year is that?

ahh yea, thats where the other 2 came from, they werent there from the start tho or at least didnt show up.

Posted by: rarely Nov 16 2013, 17:00 PM

http://www.reddit.com/r/eu4

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 18 2013, 20:58 PM

You guys saw the upcoming expansion yet? They will add the option to randomize the new world so you actually have to discover the world instead of knowing exactly where to go.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94669&d=1383910301
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94668&d=1383910301

Posted by: rarely Nov 21 2013, 11:26 AM

i saw. looks interesting

Posted by: trve^viking Nov 21 2013, 20:27 PM

like civlisation? not bad.

Posted by: rarely Nov 26 2013, 21:49 PM

already tried this opsynder?

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Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 26 2013, 22:21 PM

Nope I haven't played much EU4 lately after my game kept crashing. I might try Byzantium soon though. I suppose you have to be lucky to pull this off.

Posted by: rarely Nov 26 2013, 23:18 PM

hmm not really lucky just followed a start from some1 else. If u want to try it urself i wont say how but if u want i can biggrin.gif

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 27 2013, 14:40 PM

I guess you have to spend all your money, and perhaps even get loans, to fund a big army and navy. In the meantime you have to start several aggressive wars against small balkan nations to get big quick. Then attack the Ottomans and park your fleet between the strait so their armies from Anatolia cant cross. But this would require the luck that the Ottomans wont attack in the beginning and that they fight someone on the other side of their empire at the right time so their armies wont be at your side.

Posted by: rarely Nov 27 2013, 22:31 PM

you are right about the balkans. But how are you going to get them without the minus 2 stability hits on the declaration. Putting all your navies in the strait of constantinople wont help anymore since they get military acces fromn moldavia and everything in in the way. Even when you got all of the balkans your army still gets destroyed by the ottomans.

Posted by: Opsnyder Nov 27 2013, 23:44 PM

I never really care about stability. but as i wont care about technology early game either i could at least keep it above -3 so i can still declare war. Their armies getting military access is problematic though. So i need an ally like poland or Lithuania to keep them off me. Then with enough conquered provinces they will accept to cede a few provinces. Ill soon try this strategy and probably fail. Another thing I thought of was conquering a small country like Tyrone, move my capital and then come back for revenge when I'm big.

Posted by: rarely Nov 27 2013, 23:57 PM

I would not conquer their provinces but vassalize them. Moving your capital is a whole different thing but might be fun. Raguse is a little province you can get acces to.

Posted by: rarely Dec 4 2013, 00:59 AM

poland into commonwealth into prussia. next step germany and holy roman empire

http://imgur.com/u6kpvcd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yXyiPA0.jpg

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Posted by: BestDemoRebelAmbushEarth Dec 4 2013, 09:51 AM

EIN REICH!

Posted by: rarely Dec 4 2013, 11:22 AM

go to school noob tongue.gif

Posted by: BestDemoRebelAmbushEarth Dec 4 2013, 11:54 AM

STOP STALK MKAY.

Posted by: Opsnyder Dec 4 2013, 18:01 PM

OverPrussiawerd.

Posted by: ^Zayron- Jan 2 2014, 17:47 PM

I play that too! banana.gif

eventho not as much as rarely :L

Posted by: BestDemoRebelAmbushEarth Jan 3 2014, 03:20 AM

dont think anyone plays anything as much rarely.

i caught him in the middle of the night on facebook. he had been watching a speedrun live for the past 12 hours that day. biggrin.gif

Posted by: ^Zayron- Jan 3 2014, 13:14 PM

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Posted by: rarely Jan 4 2014, 10:16 AM

flame? so show us ur empire davide

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This was my latest game as england. I won the 100 years of war with france and got a pu with them out of it then i had norway under a pu. took the rest of france, bashed on spain, got emperor of the hre and at last a pu with sweden. Now im bored again biggrin.gif. i will probably be able to diplovassalize all the countrys with my base tax when i integrate everything.

Posted by: BestDemoRebelAmbushEarth Jan 4 2014, 23:21 PM

bowdown.gif jawohl mein kommandant

Posted by: Opsnyder Jan 5 2014, 01:51 AM

Impressive Ottoman Empire and Muscovy. Judging from the color, Russia hasnt formed yet?

Posted by: rarely Jan 5 2014, 11:45 AM

no for some reason they dont take smolensk which is an easy target and the ottomans got ryazan which is pretty hard. Also made spain move their capital to south america and they are even bigger now xD

Posted by: ^Zayron- Jan 6 2014, 19:08 PM

I'm not taking a screen, as it wouldn't change much since the start-screen tongue.gif

Anyway, I need some tips: I've tried england for like 5 times in a row (just going on for few years) and I can't really defeat france. The best attempt was getting a peace (22% warscore), but still it let me with no manpower, a very weak army, low money and a lot of revolts everywhere tongue.gif

Posted by: rarely Jan 6 2014, 21:16 PM

try the ottomans, france or austria first tbh. they give you a way better understanding of the game

Posted by: BestDemoRebelAmbushEarth Jan 7 2014, 06:39 AM

Or just taking the easy road.. Like China in CCG.. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ^Zayron- Jan 7 2014, 14:30 PM

I tried Inca, but it takes ages to upgrade technology tongue.gif

Posted by: rarely Jan 7 2014, 14:49 PM

doh

Posted by: Opsnyder Jan 7 2014, 23:39 PM

As England you shouldnt be afraid to lose your mainland provinces as France has a strong military and often will become a unstoppable land-force as time progresses. It's what happened in history as well. You should focus on conquering Scotland and Ireland and colonizing North America instead.
As England you will often get the war of the roses which plunges your nation in a civil war and I believe there's also some destabilizing events involving the church and peasant revolts. So its entirely possible England is quite weak at first.

And dont pick Inca or any other native American nation you noob.

Posted by: ^Zayron- Jan 8 2014, 12:57 PM

Inca was fun tongue.gif I started to colonize, but the european nations arrived even earlier sad.gif

Anyway, on my last try, things went much better, eventho I don't think I did anything different. I now still control my territories on the French side, plus I took advantage of a French-Burgundy war, capturing one burgundy's territory (the one with the trade-node), leaving those 2 nations in chaos (and rebels >:D). Now I'll focus on scotland tongue.gif I've also got 2 vassals on ireland (connegh and leinster).

Posted by: rarely Jan 9 2014, 13:43 PM

you probably get a mission to vassilize scotland and that mission will give you a vassalize casus belli

Posted by: ^Zayron- Jan 9 2014, 13:53 PM

I did, but winning the war with 100% warscore wasn't enough to vasslize it post-13661-1143531603.gif Should I do it in another way or conquer all of his territories first? post-13661-1143531603.gif

Posted by: rarely Jan 9 2014, 17:19 PM

that cb excists for 10 years. you need to conquer 1 province of them and then you can fully vasalize them with that cb you can see forurself with how much warscore things cost

Posted by: ^Zayron- Jan 9 2014, 17:22 PM

I don't have the "vassalize" mission anymore ;p I just added one of his provincies. Will I be able to vassalize scotland in the next war?

Posted by: Opsnyder Jan 10 2014, 00:17 AM

This is one of the things I really hate about EU4. Even when you completely conquer someone they can still reject your peace offers. As if they have anything to say.. They shouldn't even have anything to say when you kill their armies and are besieging their cities.
In history it was often enough to just conquer the capital or win a few important battles. The only reason the victor often didn't take over huge swaths of land is because other countries wouldn't accept it or they feared they wouldn't be able to hold it because the population or the ruling class would be hard to control.

Posted by: rarely Jan 10 2014, 14:48 PM

QUOTE(^Zayron- @ Jan 9 2014, 19:22 PM) *

I don't have the "vassalize" mission anymore ;p I just added one of his provincies. Will I be able to vassalize scotland in the next war?

no you dont.

Posted by: rarely Jan 10 2014, 14:48 PM

QUOTE(Opsnyder @ Jan 10 2014, 02:17 AM) *

This is one of the things I really hate about EU4. Even when you completely conquer someone they can still reject your peace offers. As if they have anything to say.. They shouldn't even have anything to say when you kill their armies and are besieging their cities.
In history it was often enough to just conquer the capital or win a few important battles. The only reason the victor often didn't take over huge swaths of land is because other countries wouldn't accept it or they feared they wouldn't be able to hold it because the population or the ruling class would be hard to control.

ye its dumb

Posted by: rarely Jan 14 2014, 12:05 PM

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Patch_1.4

Posted by: rarely Jan 17 2014, 19:33 PM

so anyone of u already tried the new patch???

Posted by: Opsnyder Feb 21 2014, 16:56 PM

Yes I have but im not sure what has changed actually. I have started a game as England for the first time. I immediately sold my mainland possessions and attacked Scotland and the Irish nations. I controlled everything on the British isles after 30 years or so. The only thing that was able to delay me was the limit on peace terms which prevent me to take more than 2 provinces of Scotland.
I destroyed my entire navy soon after that as the AI wont be able to land any successful amphibious assault anyway and with the huge amounts of money I saved on maintenance I have built every building in every province. Then as soon as tech and a +20% colony range advisor gave me enough colony range I started colonizing and rebuilding my navy. Even though Im constantly being hit with anti-England events this is the easiest game I ever played.

Of course France is huge again.

Posted by: rarely Feb 23 2014, 11:34 AM

try to win the 100yow and u get a free pu on france biggrin.gif not that hard to do

Posted by: trve^viking May 20 2015, 14:46 PM

i play that game of thrones mod for crusader kings 2 atm, its rly worth to look into it for people which like the books or tv show.

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/A_Game_of_Thrones

http://www.moddb.com/mods/crusader-kings-2-a-game-of-thrones-ck2agot


Posted by: rarely May 20 2015, 20:04 PM

i am playing a lot of civilizations 5 these days, you need all expansions though for it to be a good game

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