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# 1Camanium Nov 12 2009, 00:15 AM
How a Black hand player can evade a Shaterer Spam?
and more if they make it fast.

what could we do if they are combined with Hammerheads with rockets?


I Was trying to find a good way, scorpions, rockets but the shaterer kill the rockets and if there are a lot kill the scorp too.
fast teching? purifiers? the get owned for the hammerheads...

maybe is the way we could use them.

i need help with that, pls if you know how tell me and the rest who has this same problem. (more with ZOCOM)

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# 2Nenshou Nov 12 2009, 18:10 PM
well if hes just sending HH and shats at you use mass bikes they own even more so if you can tech up to get tib core on em. thats what i would do as Vnod any ways just rember to keep youre bikes moving and you can dodge the shats cannons there strong but fragile and slow. The HHcould give ypu problems if he has AP ammo on them but once you clean up the shats you should be able to take them down with ease. Im no pro though so they may have a better answer but thats what i would do

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# 3X-Flame Nov 14 2009, 10:30 AM
Get bikes and destroy his eco to the point that he no longer can build up such an army. And if all else fails, be the turtle. Go to T3 and get Obelisks and AA hubs.

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# 4GekkoState Nov 18 2009, 04:58 AM
Micro-ing is very helpful in a situation like this.
Since bikes are way faster than the shatterer's turn rate.
All you have to do is keep riding circles around them.
Of course with aggresive stance turned on.
If you have enough, they will also engage the hammerheads and take them out too.
Tib Core rockets are a real big plus for you in a situation like this.
Even if he tries to force fire on one area as your bikes are about to pass by, keep em heading in the same direction.
Since if he is honestly that dumb, he will also be taking out his own shatterers.
And don`t forget, take advantage of directional armor.
Always try to come in from behind where their armor is weakest.
Keep that in mind and it`s smooth sailing.
So long as he doesn`t bring in any predator tanks.
Tactics for the win!!!

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# 5Svizcy Nov 28 2009, 07:20 AM
Mass bikes should take care of the shatterers but you will have to micro them arround and few Mantises will kill any air. Flank with few bikes to kill his Eco.

good day, svizcy

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# 6IPoWNYoU Nov 28 2009, 14:35 PM
if you can mass bikes and send a little number at the front of his shatts, and then flank him from the back with the rest you can easily get rid of them especially if u can micro around them well.

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# 7IKMS Nov 29 2009, 14:59 PM
Venoms.

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# 8IPoWNYoU Nov 29 2009, 23:29 PM
lol IKMS you should know that BH doesnt have air.

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# 9Perfi Nov 30 2009, 07:37 AM
QUOTE(IPoWNYoU @ Nov 30 2009, 00:29 AM) *

lol IKMS you should know that BH doesnt have air.

lol Pown you should know that there's something called a joke, and it's pretty darn awesome.
Besides, venoms fail against Shatterers big time. They just don't do enough damage. I reckon Verts would be good, since Shatts need to stop to fire. No idea about an early\mid counter though.

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# 10MLG Pro Dec 2 2009, 02:01 AM
QUOTE(Perfi @ Nov 30 2009, 07:37 AM) *

lol Pown you should know that there's something called a joke, and it's pretty darn awesome.
Besides, venoms fail against Shatterers big time. They just don't do enough damage. I reckon Verts would be good, since Shatts need to stop to fire. No idea about an early\mid counter though.

lol today this same tactic was used against me...

try to make him recall his shatts by using bikes to harass his eco (send them when u see the shatts are about half way through his base)
nothing BH has is really cost effective against shatters, so I'd recommend moving scorps& laser turrets (maybe reckoners), i like to send (early-mid game) 3 saboteurs on decision to cap both turrets& emp center

late game, obelisks& redeemer one shot shatters
rage gen is ridiculous against shatters...


verts one-shot shatters as well as do AOE, I once had a vert kill 3 shatts ^^

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# 11cnc315d34d Dec 2 2009, 06:56 AM
specs are a ton better than verts
they 2shot shatts and do like 5x the aoe ^^

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# 12Lobber Dec 8 2009, 01:58 AM
Shatts are unbeatable bow to me now


EDIT FROM DAVID.CNC: sorry had to edit that tongue.gif

This post has been edited by David.CNC: Dec 15 2009, 20:38 PM

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# 13Zaros Dec 15 2009, 20:37 PM
Shats are not unbeatable >.>. As im the new stratergy specialist i shall give you a stratergy tongue.gif.

Continue your normal man spam


Build lots of Reckoners


Put Men in Reckoners


Deploy Reckoners near to shats


Shats die


HHS die

GG

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# 14IPoWNYoU Dec 15 2009, 23:13 PM
QUOTE(David.CNC @ Dec 15 2009, 16:37 PM) *

Shats are not unbeatable >.>. As im the new stratergy specialist i shall give you a stratergy tongue.gif.

Continue your normal man spam
Build lots of Reckoners
Put Men in Reckoners
Deploy Reckoners near to shats
Shats die
HHS die

GG


actually that wouldnt work 5-6 shatterer blasts to 1 deployed reckoner and it would be toast.

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# 15Zaros Dec 15 2009, 23:35 PM
thats why you have more than one reckoner and backup men in support >.>

EDIT: also recks r much cheaper than shats ^^.

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# 16Perfi Dec 16 2009, 14:42 PM
QUOTE(David.CNC @ Dec 16 2009, 00:35 AM) *

thats why you have more than one reckoner and backup men in support >.>

EDIT: also recks r much cheaper than shats ^^.

Empty ones, yeah. You'll need some infantry in them to deal some damage though.

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# 17Zaros Dec 16 2009, 15:16 PM
and hes gonna need more than just shats so ^^.

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# 18AgentMiles Mar 29 2010, 20:39 PM
HEHE. Camanium its easy to kill some shaters but its not easy to kill an all in shater+ manspam. i started trying it after JoshyBoshy did that at CMT (he lost but i was under pressure all the time) COUNTER IT WITH MANSPAM ONLY ( and 4-5 scorps). And a few bikes to do some eco harass. Than expand tier 3... ... .... If u play Nod do some stealth tank if he does another mcv.

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# 19AgentMiles Mar 29 2010, 20:41 PM
I forgot something. NO RECKONER'S. Reckoner's = Auto loss

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# 20Commander Raze Nov 16 2010, 23:32 PM
QUOTE(-2haRd-Rubini @ Mar 29 2010, 15:41 PM) *
I forgot something. NO RECKONER'S. Reckoner's = Auto loss


Don't shats outrange missles in recks? I mean, I know missles get a range boost, but aren't shats able to force fire from range to outrange the missles?

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