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# 1Miku Aug 5 2014, 05:29 AM
ive been struggling a lil with GLA, i can control myself vs most pros but when i get myself into a game vs a really good player i struggle to figure it out, any help would be nice, heres a few replays... Wins and Losses


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# 2Murder- Aug 5 2014, 05:34 AM
will help out later

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# 3-WaRPiG^ Aug 6 2014, 04:15 AM
Dont listen to Murder, his Gla is very noobish/shit.

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# 4Miku Aug 6 2014, 05:04 AM
I wish someone would help me... lol

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# 5MrX Aug 6 2014, 13:26 PM
Economy, mapcontrol, units, micro. -> Speed.

This is all you need.

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# 6MrX Aug 6 2014, 19:19 PM
QUOTE(MrX @ Aug 6 2014, 14:26 PM) *

Economy, mapcontrol, units, micro. -> Speed.

This is all you need.




I watched Game 1 now. You gla top vs murder china bottom.

Your biggest mistake: Economy -> You had only 4 workers at your main supply and 3 workers at your secondary supply for the entire game. You played with only half of the money you could get. Make 6 workers. Take care of that. It is very important and an absolute must-have. (You had 2 workers standing in your base doing nothing a long time -> all your units are productive. Let them do something.

Your second biggest mistake: Mapcontrol -> After getting the 2 oils you had no real plan what to do to win the match. You let your enemy having the middle entire game. And you didnt really try to push forward at a flank. (Forward tunnel - forward units) You could also push middle with tox-tractor, rockets, scorps, worker combined.

Other plan could have been to better secure your oils vs migs (with stingers) as you only stingers in your base. Also you should always repair your buildings and your oils as fast as possible. I noticed you did not do that most of the time.

Units: Were ok I guess.
Micro: Sometimes very good, sometimes not so. Improve by spamming games and concentrating.
All in all you could have given up way earlier. It was a pain to watch that long. Game was over way sooner. tongue.gif

This was an analysis of a ZH Player who played 1 month CCG Mai 2009.

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# 7Miku Aug 6 2014, 20:17 PM
thx mrx, and that game went way longer than it should have cause me and murder were talking haha, but i appriciate your help

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# 8MrX Aug 8 2014, 16:18 PM
Game 2:
You: Gla top
Murder: USA bottom

Biggest problem: Economy -> 1. You had not enough workers, especially at secondary supply. 2. You didn't take oil entire game 3. You let your enemy having his oil entire game. 4. You didn't bomb his supply

-> Try to bomb his supply, not his warfactory.

Secondary problem: You wasted too many jeeps against his vees. Tunnel forward. Get middle supplys, defend middle supplys, get your oil, defend oils, destroy enemy oil, keep bombing his important buildings (supplys/strat/drop zones).


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# 9Murder- Aug 10 2014, 11:27 AM
You're wrong MrX. You' don't TT the supplies. You TT the WF to stop vee spam.

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# 10THEDOM- Aug 10 2014, 11:30 AM
QUOTE(Heroism^ @ Aug 10 2014, 12:27 PM) *

You're wrong MrX. You' don't TT the supplies. You TT the WF to stop vee spam.


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# 11Murder- Aug 10 2014, 11:33 AM
Either way, I'll have a look at your replays probably tomorrow Miku and give some advice. I have recently been struggling with my health, and i'm expecting to be a little recovered tomorrow in a sense that I can actually see without a blur. Might also be back in the game then.

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# 12MrX Aug 10 2014, 12:00 PM
QUOTE(Heroism^ @ Aug 10 2014, 12:27 PM) *

You're wrong MrX. You' don't TT the supplies. You TT the WF to stop vee spam.


No money, no vees.

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# 13Murder- Aug 10 2014, 12:02 PM
It works different in CCG. Because quads are a lot weaker. If you keep TTing his supplies USA can move his chinooks to the middle and gather more easy from there. Plus someone with decent macro won't run out of supplies to build, so you're basically setting him up to gather from the middle and boost his economy. If you TT his WF constantly on the other hand.. He won't be able to spam many units.

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# 14MrX Aug 27 2014, 11:46 AM
Are you still struggling and waiting for more advice?
If yes, in which matchups espcially?

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