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# 1-WaRPiG^ Mar 11 2011, 23:41 PM
what to believe. how do we know what we are seeing on tv is the truth. without personal experience, how can we know. the truth is what we are told is true. we tend to accept main stream media reports as being factual. is it the case.

this was taken from a blog i found on the net.

We all have witnessed the unrest in the Middle East since Jan 2011; first we saw the leadership fall in Tunisia, which was quickly followed by Egypt. Throughout the first two countries' rebellions, there was a constant stream of news reports with video footage to inform the world what was going on.

Then Libya followed, the oil rich nation controlled by a tyrant who has lead the country for over 40 years with a iron fist. It seemed natural that rebellion would grip this country as it did the others, since freedom, after all, is what people want and deserve. However, this uprising seemed very different to what took place in Tunisia and Egypt.

First of all, we noticed the lack of protestor footage, even after constant requests for journalist to film the scenes in Libya by Gaddafi and his son, which is rather bizarre, especially after witnessing the seething throngs that brought mighty Egypt to its knees.

Then we saw the UN get involved, with the UK and USA leading in suggestive speech that they would not hesitate to send forces into libya -- on "humanitarian grounds", of course. We agree that people should have freedom and should not be slaughtered by their own leaders, but there is a startling lack of proof that an uprising is even occurring, and indeed, a growing body of evidence that this is a conspiracy to get foreign forces into Libya.

Practically speaking, is it time for other countries to get involved, possibly leading to another middle eastern war? This doesn't seem to have been factored at all into anyone's decision making regarding Libyan intervention.

Surely, now is the time for the UN, UK and USA to send in officials to check, first hand, if these reports are accurate. When we hear of the many protestor casualties, is there any proof that these where not rebels as Gaddafi has suggested?

We were even fed a glimpse of some fighting and air attack on the 3rd of March 2011, apparently around the desert marina by the oil wells. Without trying to seem facetious, do protestors wielding giant machine guns normally go for a country's oil fields or other heavily guarded economic assets? Is this the stuff of protest, or the stuff of armed groups attempting to seize control of a country through a coup (or externally sponsored attack)?

Our views are that people are capable of governing themselves without the need to be terrorized by iron-fisted leadership. Simply put, Gaddafi should give up his power and free his people, and this is the reason the media is feeing us for the purported Libyan uprising. Then why is all the evidence pointing to this *not* being the case?

We propose the following questions:

1) Could the fact that Libya has Africa's largest oil reserves have anything to do with the sudden interest in the Libyan uprising?

2) Is it a little convenient that Tunisia and Egypt collapsed first, two countries that border Libya, and could this have any strategic impact on events in Libya?

3) Why isn't the media following up on Gaddafi's offer to film the country to prove that unrest is in fact, not occurring -- isn't it the media's responsibility to investigate? Surely it can't be due to safety reasons, as reporters from major new networks have no problem following father and son around.

4) Why are Sky News reporters harassing Gaddafi's son about purported bombings of civilians despite growing evidence to the contrary? And why are Sky News reporters trying to frame everything that comes out of his mouth as being an "attack on the people" despite the fact that bombings, according to witness accounts, have been taking place in open desert or strategic areas that any country would rationally seek to defend in time of war?

5) Why are protesters engaging in attacks that would be challenging for even armed and trained groups to successfully execute, such as seizing oil fields and other military assets?

6) Why is there so little footage of Libyan protest, aside from the same few clips of groups of four or five individuals waving around AK47s, shot at close range, without any sign of a crowd?

7) Where is the footage of the "massive battles" supposedly taking place throughout Libya's cities?

8) Why is Tripoli silent, when Cairo and Tunis were aflame with protest?

9) Why does this whole situation seem so similar to the treatment of Iraq prior to the US invasion, especially since Iraq possesses the mideast's largest remaining untapped oil reserves, and at that time a leader the world loved to hate?

10) Why is there a pattern forming between imploding nations, or nations of US interest, and countries around those targets suddenly facing collapse? (Tunisia, Egypt in the case of Libya, and Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan in the case of Iran -- which, by the way, also possesses massive oil reserves.)

11) Why has no one attempted to address Gaddafi's son's comment when asked about the Libya reaction to this situation: "If 40 armed men with machine guns showed up in London, what would you do?"

12) Why are all the little countries surrounding Saudi Arabia also sliding the way of Tunisia and Egypt, and is Saudi Arabia another target in the queue?

13) Where is the footage of the "hundreds of thousands of refugees" pouring over the borders into Tunisia and Egypt, especially when foreign reporters made it a point to let it be known that they now have safe and easy access into Libya at those areas?

14) In Zimbabwe and Rwanda and Ivory Coast (all where there's no oil), the population was (and is) routinely slaughtered simply for voicing an opinion, yet there was no intervention there, so why Libya?

15) Prior to this mideast uprising, numerous warships from various western nations were dispatched to "deal with" Somalia, Yemen, and the "rampant piracy" that occurs along their coasts -- could this have had some future-set strategic purpose that potentially involved Libya and events in the Middle East?

Hopefully time will answer these questions for us all, and help clarify what is appearing like a seemingly conspiratorial scenario.

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# 2WaRCRiMM Mar 12 2011, 07:50 AM
very interesting,i have not followed the situation there but whatever the outcome,a Libya without gaddafi is a good Libya smile.gif.

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# 3Murder- Mar 12 2011, 08:54 AM
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what to believe. how do we know what we are seeing on tv is the truth. without personal experience, how can we know. the truth is what we are told is true. we tend to accept main stream media reports as being factual. is it the case.

We can't. I doubt we will ever really know what is true and what isn't.

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# 4-WaRPiG^ Mar 12 2011, 08:55 AM
i agree the people of libya deserve a better life, especially considering its potential. things could get worse rather than better though.

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# 5Murder- Mar 12 2011, 09:00 AM
Yes. Prospects are not that bright. sad.gif

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# 6-WaRPiG^ Mar 12 2011, 09:03 AM
QUOTE(Murder- @ Mar 12 2011, 19:54 PM) *

We can't. I doubt we will ever really know what is true and what isn't.


we can, we just are not allowed.

so why do we accept the news that is delivered to us as being true? its odd isnt it. we read it, or watch it, and think oh fuck, and just accept it to be true. i do it.

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# 7Murder- Mar 12 2011, 09:21 AM
We aren't allowed and we can't basically comes down to the same point. tongue.gif Yep, i do it to. sad.gif But what are the other options besides that.. It's not like we can start a revolution against mainstream media. post-13661-1143531603.gif

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# 8WaRCRiMM Mar 12 2011, 09:26 AM
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We aren't allowed and we can't basically comes down to the same point. tongue.gif Yep, i do it to. sad.gif But what are the other options besides that.. It's not like we can start a revolution against mainstream media. post-13661-1143531603.gif

we can boycott mainstream media,thats what i do anyways. btw im watching this japanese tsunami thing right now....omg its like im dreaming this shitt.....so surreal.

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# 9Murder- Mar 12 2011, 09:35 AM
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we can boycott mainstream media,thats what i do anyways. btw im watching this japanese tsunami thing right now....omg its like im dreaming this shitt.....so surreal.

These are the words im looking for all week.

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# 10-WaRPiG^ Mar 12 2011, 09:43 AM
the footage of the tidal wave is mind boggling.the nulear reactor could pose an even bigger threat though. if it goes off, it will be a bigger disaster than Chernobyl.

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# 11WaRCRiMM Mar 12 2011, 09:44 AM
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These are the words im looking for all week.

That will be $295 thank you very much.

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# 12-WaRPiG^ Mar 12 2011, 09:46 AM
all week? it happened yesterday. tongue.gif

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# 13Murder- Mar 12 2011, 09:48 AM
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the footage of the tidal wave is mind boggling.the nulear reactor could pose an even bigger threat though. if it goes off, it will be a bigger disaster than Chernobyl.

Hiroshima ftw.

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# 14WaRCRiMM Mar 12 2011, 09:53 AM
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the footage of the tidal wave is mind boggling.the nulear reactor could pose an even bigger threat though. if it goes off, it will be a bigger disaster than Chernobyl.

When i woke up today,before i went to work i had a little glimpse on the net of what was going on.....needless to say i couldnt function properly at work.
check this out...so fucken scaryyyyy


mother nature is terrifying powerful force.

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# 15-WaRPiG^ Mar 12 2011, 09:59 AM
mad isnt it. i stayed up last night watching it all. seen it like 100 times now. tongue.gif

if they cant cool that reactor though, and it melts, all this will seem insignificant.

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# 16WaRCRiMM Mar 12 2011, 10:02 AM
man ive been working every single day,cant keep up with current events or ccg sad.gif.
last i heard the reactors went into auto shut-down mode and all is well?

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# 17-WaRPiG^ Mar 12 2011, 10:57 AM
they have shut down, but so have the pumps that run the cooling system. the water in the cooling system has to circulate or it will boil away and the core will melt. it is boiling right now. that is why they are saying they have to vent some of the gas/steam. its been it contact with the reactive material and is highly radioactive. this is also taking place in the cooling pools where they keep the spent fuel rods.

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# 18Murder- Mar 12 2011, 11:13 AM
DEMZ PREMIER LEAGUE IS ON SAMMMZOR

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# 19fateat Mar 14 2011, 20:46 PM
I know you guys sort of like conspiracies and cover ups. This one I found particularly interesting especially after the recent events that unfolded in Japan.

Nibiru/Planet X

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# 20squaak Mar 14 2011, 22:04 PM
I'll talk about Lybia in a next post cause it's a complicated subject, and hard to analyse.

I just want to comment about the post from Fateat now.

@ Fateat :
You really feel yourself smarter than anyone cause you are "over" all these "crazy guys" who warn you from a conspiracy ?
You don't even take the time to inform yourself about it, that's disapointing.
For example, just with the Federal Bank system, you should be able to see that it's real and that it's an unacceptable conspiracy !!
Or maybe do I overrate the competence of the average american citizen ?

I think yes since you continue voting for guys like Bush or Obama and seem happy when they are elected.

Do you even heard about the HAARP project ? That's a project in order to controll the elements using the technology from Tesla. (like the machine to make rain or the earthquake machine).

Here an example of the russian earthquake machine :


And keep in mind that this machine was developped during the Cold War so it's for sure far more developped nowadays through the HAARP project.

Now here is a document of Benjamin Fulford, an influent man who worked for the Forbes magazine.
He is also specialized about Japan. Watch at 55' when he talk about the earthquake in Japan in 2008 and the way how Japan lost the control on its financial system.
But you can also watch the whole video if you have the time cause this guy explains a lot of things and there are prooves about it.




Then I just want to talk about another "conspiracy" in France since you seem to believe we live in the perfect world and all is yellow.

Watch this announce about the meeting of today in Paris :

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It means "Not any jew vote for the FN"

(The FN is the national party in France, announced to be currently 1st in a recent survey about the presidential election of 2012). It represents 25% of the population at least atm and this party want France to quit the EU and the Euro and to get our National Sovereighty again and also want that we stop the immigration.
So more and more people join these ideas cause our current government is already destructing our country and the "official oppisition party, the Socialist party" offcially ask to "change our civilization" and want to create a "Muslim Identity and Nationality" !!!

And then we see on this tract that the big jew (zionist) lobbies in France, CRIF (the equivalent to AIPAC in USA), UEJF, LICRA, ... oppenly ask jews to vote against the national party that want to give us our national sovereighty ???

Is that not a terrific conspiracy ?
By this, you clearly see that "Jew" is not about a religion, it's all about politics and it takes the control of governements !

How would you react for example if you see the same tract in USA calling "Jews" not to vote for Ron Paul ?

Wake up please Fateat ...

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