guys i been a smoker since i was 14 and quit for 2 yrs when i was 19 due to some training.then started again at 21 and always felt like i needed to make up for those 2 yrs of smoke free.result is 2 packs of winfield gold a day.sometimes im smoking like 60 ciggies a day and its starting to effect me physically.ever since i hit the big three 0 in oct i can feel the bad effect on me much more.so today ive started taking champics to try and quit for good. i think u guys should quit aswell,its a filthy habit that kills u slowly and eats up ur income ( strange how pot is illegal and smoking, the number 1 killer in australia is legal ).anyway reason why im posting this is cause i know vexxe and piggy smoke and if it works for me hopefully it will encourage u guys to make an attempt at it. heres the results for day 1
took pill in the morning and it made me a bit nauseous, in the arvo i tried to have a nap but it made me feel like i was in a twilite zone,some reason i havnt been hungry all day.mid day i said fukk this im off these fuken pills but i feel fine now so i will take them 2moro again. have smoked the same amount of ciggies but they did taste a lil funny.i have chosen my quit date on the 11 day of starting the treatment
Wow, thats hard addiction Two packs per day is alot. Always thought its already bad when people smoking one pack which is something around 1 every 45 minutes.
My grandma stoped smoking from one day to the other because she suddenly felt its disgusting, the smell of the clothes, hair and fingers... Might be the best way to stop it, just feel disgusted by it
when u wanna stop then stop immideatly and dont say ill do it tomoz because its gg wp already then. Don't take pills warcrimm take chewing gum. buy a boxing ball and hit it when u feel like smoking and lose all ur frustrations. So u dont feel like smoking anymore and watch this !
2 packs of winnies would be 50 smokes, that is pretty heavy. i smoke about 1/2 that on a normal day, but prolly twice that if i go out on the piss. i have tried all ways of quitting, patches, medication and good old cold turkey. the best i managed was 12 months. you might ask why would you start smoking again after 12 months off them. its because even after that long i still felt like having a smoke every day. I am planning on having another shot at it when i go on annual leave. its a hard road people who have never been addicted for a long period, find it hard to understand just how difficult it is. gl
well crim can tell you's how much i h8 smoke and try to make all of those i know who smoke 2 quite.
piggy when u attempt to quick this time start exercising. go for jogs, pick up a little sport or something.
what ppl dont realize that exercise reliefs stress so it becomes easier to quite also when u become health due to exercise neither u nor ur body would feal like a smoke becourse ur feel healthy and great about ur self and ur more confident and u never want 2 lose that. so the end result is never going bak 2 smokes again. gl every1
thats how i quit the first time rerely,it was just sudden.so it was easier back then,but now im 30 and have kids and run my own buisness which adds alot of stress.i can never quit like that now,no way.thats why these pills im hopeing will work for me.
update 2nd day
took pill in the morning and went to work,my normal labourer chucked a sickie on me so i took reload with me.and let me tell u he drove me insane.luckily the noise from my machinery was blocking out my shouting.despite all that i felt fine and have only smoked about 35 ciggies
update 3rd day
smoked about 40 smokes ,severe headache and very weak
I never smoked. Only on occasion. But last night 2 joints and 4 cigares. Weekend trips.
i partly agree with squaak the way i started smoking was only on weekends having drinks with m8's. however when you have been a heavy smoker for 20 years like i have, ignoring the addiction isnt an option. you simply cant ignore it. tobacco smoke is the most addictive substance available, more addictive than even heroin. i personally know people who have kicked heroin but cant get off the smokes. like i said in my earlier post i managed to give up for 12 months at one stage but even after that long i still had the craving to smoke every single day. all it took was the death of a family member to get me back on the smokes, and it only took one.
Yeah its a hard one, what makes it worse for me is that Kira smokes too, and every time we try to quit she gets all headfucked and needs a smoke, then they are there and i smoke too. I hate the things, i am 25 and have been smoking since year 8 in high school. I smoke about 15-20 a day so its not as full on as you guys, but i run own business and work alone in office most of day, or drive around alone most of day and i dont have a stereo in my car or speakers on my computer IT Fucking SUX
They taste horrid, i hate the smell of them, my office stinks theres ash on my desk fucking diskuzting shit! But i just cant stop.
Lets just say im down to my last couple of bucks, i will scrounge it all together and buy cigarettes rather than the shit i really need. Horrible Horrible things.
The WORST PART about it is they only cost cigarette companies not even a few cents to make, these joker fucks in conjunction with the government are making squillions! I used to sell smokes when i was at school for 50c ea and make a profit to buy my lunch but now.....How are these kids supposed to make money to buy lunch! Its tough times ahead for this generation.
I bid you good day sirs, and good luck with your endeavours.
It's funny how government's around the world ban drugs like cocain marijuana and in some country's alchohol etc,but when it comes to sigg's they just arent that harsh and comitted.
They should ban siggarets foregood!
I smoke since i was about 17,so iam a 10 year smoker.
I do sports, and after a work out my lungs breath heavily and i can feel the toxins getting out of my lungs.
I stil cant stop smoking,like after a workout my body scream's for a sigg.
But al in al,i do sport ,meaning i fight the sigg a little bit.
So sam u should start sporting m8,find a sport where u use ure lungs continuesly,like kickbocks or running.
I promise u u wil feel way way better and it will make quiting smoking much easyer for u.
i know m8,i just have to pass the first few days and then it will be ok im sure.what squaak said is the most effective way but at this point it wont work for me
yesturday i forget to take the 2nd pill
today ive started taking two a day.not long till the quit day comes
2 packs of winni blues a day is a lot warcrimm, u will prob get lung cancer if u keep that up! Smoke chuff instead are you a chain smoker? y do u need to smoke 50 ciggies a day?
Me, piggy, legion, smokeyz, cakey, stuart love, malibu and machine should get together for a smoke, rofl.
smoking killz all i have to say
looks like a new person i see.
stupid smokers. If everyone was as hardheaded like me then we wudnt have any smokers
Cakey was wondering why you lived in holland and never smoke...now i know You are strong minded ^^
Came to school on Monday. One hour class, then immediately a break. Some guys suggested to go to the nearest Coffee Shop. I refused. Simply won't do it regularly.(Also hardheaded ) All tho people say weed isn't damageable. Still it isn't good.
i have a mega bong problem. every time i play generals i down a few cones and it doesnt help let u know me u know u know? Dont lie no you dont!
attempt at quitting failed hardcore,stupid champics only made me high and happy.but i have reduced to about 30 -35 ciggies a day which is good for me .looks like the good old fashioned way is only gona work for me
in conclusion,champix wont work for the heavy smoker.
u just dont want enough to quit smoking. If you had to choose between smoking or ur kid dies then im sure everyone can do it
ye, just make rarely ur quit-smoking-mentor... he kills ur dog if u dont stop it!
i dont have a dog but i do have a cat. would that still work?
rarely doesnt understand just how addictive tobacco is. when you have been a heavy smoker trying to quit is mental torture at its best. its hard to describe exactly what it is like. but you cant concentrate. all you can think about is having a smoke. it makes you anxious, you cant sleep you get head aches. the list goes on.
and yea people all over the world right now are buying cigarettes with their last few dollars, instead of buying food for their kids.
i have no idea how much smokes cost in holland, but here in aus, your average 30 pack of smokes is around $15, a majority of which is tax.
Stupid Tax, smokes 10 yrs ago were bluddy three bucks seventy fiver for christ sakes. now the average person spends 45 mins of hard work a day to pay for those blurry taxes blurry blurry!....BLURRY!
House prices set to fall aussie wide.....GUARANTEED (IMO ) Bitches
WoooOOo I just made $11 Trading AUD/USD oh.... now i only made $8 ooh now $9 now $11 !! now $10 now $8 $6 $2 $-2 $-5 Noooooo Come back Aussi Plaz Plaz! Stupid!
u really think they gona go down maggz?cause im looking at one house now and im thinking the same.more interest rate hikes = house prices fall.what do u think
definately man, im waiting for 12 - 18 months to assess situation.
New home investment has been pushed along by foreign namely chinese buying, through lax lending measures in china. Australia would be one of the last to drop in an economic cycle like gfc, if a china bubble bursts through bad lending practices, or the yuan decouples from the us dollar, there will be major changes in Sino-Aussie trade practices.....All of the government induced stimulus from china and relaxed lending if all of that falls through, it spreads through foreign chinese investment.
Also, the FHOG 14k grants, people who couldnt afford houses were given the grant to make the houses affordable, these guys with the higher rates are already defaulting on their mortgage payments. When they cant afford the house anymore they get left with nothing but the interest from the loan that they still have to pay....WITH NO HOUSE! The banks and central bank force the prices down through different means, general public buys high, prices fall, mortgage payments are still the same, interest rates go up, people default, banks make money, bank buys house at deflated rate.
A 300k house imo should be around 150k
People are just leveraging the fuck out of themselves because they believe house prices double every 7-10 years....Because its been drilled into everyone, the great aussie dream crap crap etc etc.
Yes, they will fall....
How about finding another addiction that distracts you from smoking or takes its place and does not harm you?
porno :Þ or boxing maybe or some other sport
Take up a sport mate, my best advice. Together with nicotine patches or chewing gum. Pump some iron each day, take long walks and swim some laps. Outside swimming is very therapetic. Even try the Solarium.
After pumping so much nicotine into ur body for so many years it will take some time to clear it out...but u MUST start somewhere, actually make a start. 2 packs of winnie blues per day is over-doing it tbh.
Let the pictures on the cigarette packets serve as a constant reminder of what YOUR lungs ALREADY look like
Next time i see u online first thing imma ask u is 'how many ciggies have u had today?'
back to the Alice Springs u go!
i heard about that lolz aint all the abos up there just piss drinkers?
well they do drink alot and some do sniff petrol but idk really what to make of the whole thing.
petrol lolz omg lol man u white auzzies fucked them up lol
u seriously doub anything you drink or eat and w.e but you still smoke. Please stfu
You can only do it if your will to quit is stronger than your addiction
go die warpig
how is the one you call warpig going to do that?
hes <removed> aussie and physically inferior to big murder. tell meh how son
"Big murder" not really big,only big mouth. Warpig going to show murder big Aussie fist in his big mouth .
trust meh, me big okay. no jelly cuz muslim with small willy mkay
Nearly 33 hours.
You show support now!! or i call my muslim buddies, they riot in Sydney... they come show you big muslim beef jerky.
Start some sports - once u feel ur burning lung u will start to hate cigs and all that unhealthy food. Personally I never smoked, but helped out ppl who want to stop it in this way.
just think about all the money you already wasted on cigs and what you could of bought instead. + chew lots of gum
i knew you were a quitter crimm.
seriously good luck with it. its super hard i know.
years back when i was in college, we had some ex junkies come to talk to us about their drug habits. i remember talking to this woman who had been addicted to heroin for like 6 years. she kicked her heroin addiction, but could not get off the cigarettes. apparently smoking is more addictive than heroin.
fuckkk that shittttt
thats made me hungry!
The healthy one or the tar laden one?
6 days now , and only one casualty thus far .
is it driving you crazy?
Not really,for some odd reason i have been calm and collected.Apart from this Afghani dude who felt the full force of my forearm on his skull....it's been good.
afghan learns the hard way, you dont fuck with anzacs that are giving up smoking.
last time i tried giving up i even dreamed about smoking. i couldnt escape it, it droves be nuts. i lasted over 3 months, then went out on a bender, and woke with a packet in my pocket.
That's not very encouraging ,i hope i can make this forever and not just 3 months.
My mum quit smoking 30 years ago. She's dreaming about it up to this very day and she'd still like to take a drag.
But she's alive right? Who knows if she was still smoking today what sickness she could have been inflicted with. So that's another good reason to quit. Unfortunately what you say is the truth though,that is the pitfall all ex-smokers have to contend with throughout their lives .
But i'm determined this time,already breathing much better and have saved at least $140 so far .
The best trick is to stop cigarette and switch to joints only...u minimize the smoking at all ;-)
i've tried that, it didnt work. i just smoked shit loads of weed, and when my stash dried up, i just smoked cigarettes.
the best trick i found was to use affirmations, and i put a note in my wallet so every time i opened it i could see it. it listed all the reasons why i wanted to quit. that way if i was tempted to buy a packet, when i opened my wallet i got an immediate reminder of why i needed to quit.
did you know some people are immune to nicotine addiction?
my wife is one of them. she was only a lite smoker but smoked heavier when having a few drinks. when she stopped, she didnt have any withdrawal symptoms, cravings anything. very rarely she will still have a smoke if she is having drinks with people that smoke.
i actually laughed out loud.
hmmm yum, a smoke sounds so good right about now warcrimm, don't ya think?
im trying to quit anal butt sex with krew, but its hard =/
wrong krew I guess. The real sex slave is Justin. Me and murder take turns normally, but murder is off to collage atm, so I'm baby sitting Justin's butt hole for a while.
Stop derailing my quit smoking topic with your anus fetish fascinations .
oh I thought it was a turn on for everybody
sif i would ever let you stick your half black dick in me
half cuz its small right
its prlly either rlly short n fat, or rlly long n super skinny
the half thats in his butt.
half of the half that is black is in, cuz my ass is pretty tight no way he is fitting an entire half of a black dick in
still off the smokes?
Tomorrow will be 3 weeks .
Just got back from Canada, and every single day i spent over the 3 weeks there, I smoked with my cousin, had my last smoke in the packet an hour ago and told myself thats the last one ill buy for some time, hope it stays that way.. I am not like some long ass year addict only been doing it for the past 3-4 months and im great full i do not have a strong addiction to the smoking like some people so lets give it a go and good job crimbo!!!
Rusty,it's a filthy,dirty, disgusting habit. Stay well clear m8, and never underestimate its power. When you say you're not addicted like some is what we all said m8....until it's too late and it becomes blatantly obvious we ARE addicted.
Today is my 36th day ....my only regret is that i wish i quit when i was russty's age .
In a few minutes it will be 60 days .
i cant believe your being so selfish. if everyone stopped smoking who would pay for pay rises for teachers and nurses.
I'm having one right now while I read this, and lovin it.
65 days and 11 kilo's later...still fighting to not have that magic drag after a nice meal .
You put on or lost 11kg ?
Put on,not gona be easy to lose .
just take drugs and dont eat bro, all the kids are doing it
Seems like everybody is jumping off high rise buildings.
I just recently gave up sugar, except when I get coffee in town, dunno if it's helping yet.
Best thing you can ever do for your body,watch the weight fly off too.
82 days and counting .
Mmmm a Winfield blue would go nicely right about now...just had a barbie and am now holding a freezing can of delightful coke .
Meet me at TC Bro's and I'll slip ya a rollie.
Jew fish, ok. Reported for anti-semitism.
Apparently..these fish are very cunning with a hint of slyness.
caught my first fish last Friday, was so proud of myself
What was it,yakka?
sweet looking little run about. those yamaha outboards will go for ever if you keep the good oil in them. did it come with an auxiliary?
the yamaha is built on proven technology, but there are a few little things you need to know to keep an outboard running well.
if you had to do the head it sounds like a over heating problem. something as simple as a spider setting up home in the cooling water jets can restrict the flow of water through the engine, causing it to overheat. with alloy heads it most often results in a blown gasket and warped head. when your out on the water make sure the water is streaming out of the jets nicely. and check them every now and then while your traveling, because they can suck in small particles, and block up on the odd occasion.
if you dont have a set of flushing muffs, get some, and flush your engine out with fresh water after every use. its a good idea to put them on and test the motor before you head off as well. just in case a spider has moved in.
keep the good oil in it and give the electrical contacts a go over with some marine CRC every now and then, and you should be right.
if you dont have an auxiliary, i recommend you at least get one of the little electric jobs. a good days fishing can turn into a bad night drifting, if your motor conks out, or refuses to start.
You can give me head to it warps with your good set of flushing muff's boobcat
CRC is in a spray can Sammy, fuck even I know that LOL.
It's the good shit.
This CF is for cunts. Back to DM.
Sounds like WD40.
Quit day, this saturday.
You started again?
lol yea. Its tricky business. I was dealing with a lot of stress through a workers comp issue, a m8 offered me a smoke, and i took it. even after not smoking for over 6 months, one cigarette was enough to hook me again.
I know that might sound stupid, or weak minded to someone who has never been heavily addicted to smoking, But your mind plays tricks on you. Your brain, and the rest of your body instantly remembers how much it craves for it, and you convince yourself that your not addicted anymore, and one more smoke will not hurt. It snowballs from there, all the while your mind is justifying it all.
150 days and counting for me ,never felt better in my life (even with the 14 kilo's gained). You stick to your quit date m8 and don't give up, persistence,composure and a level head is the key to victory over nicotine dependence.
Just say FUCK IT!!!
well done, I know how it feels, and I am looking forward to it. Its the first two weeks that are the hardest. It really is amazing how powerful the addiction is. I know that for the first few days, I will not even be able to think straight, my every thought will be consumed by my cravings.
I ballooned out to 120kg when i quit. I did not enjoy the extra weight at all. I am hovering around 90kg atm, and I am hoping to keep it that way. I might take up squash.
Did you have nightmares when you first started quitting? I had super powerful nightmares about all kinds of shit. They were so vivid and realistic, I was waking up in sweats.
Did you use any aids like patches, or gum? I used patches last time, for the first week, but I am just going cold turkey this time.
Oh no. I'm not thinking badly about it, actually, I find very strong to stand up against it, to fail and to try over and over again.
This is strength.
I used the patches for 3 weeks and went cold turkey thereafter. Hope you have stuck to the deadline .
yea i have, and its not easy. I can barely concentrate at work. whenever i smell someone that has had a smoke, i feel like holding them down and licking them. LOL
Hang in there mate,it'll only get easier once you pass a certain point. And don't look at smokers like they are lucky or something..matter of fact,they are the unlucky ones and they wish they were YOU!!!! Trust me.
How'd ya go m8?
suicide for big gg
I am persevering but I cant say it is going well.
How you holding up buddy? I recently passed the 6 month mark . The cravings don't come on so suddenly or as harsh anymore....feels good to be a non-smoker.
lol yea I have tried that in the past. I have also tried only smoking while drinking, which just lead to a lot more drinking.
@ warcimm, one interesting thing about that picture, is regardless of the lung on the left being healthy, the owner is obviously just as dead as the owner of the black lung.
Most probably this was a lung transplant taking place. Lungs are in high demand for transplants(smoking related),this is why i refuse to be a donor.Rumor has it that if you have the misfortune of having a major car accident and you are seriously injured the doctors will not work as hard to try and save you. The thinking is that your organs can save around 7 people or something like that. Fuck that shit
Anyhooo,you still haven't smoked?
I'm not an organ donor either. I'm not in the habit of giving away priceless objects. If I could sign an agreement of sorts, and have my family receive top dollar for my parts, I would seriously consider it.
I have had a few weak moments, but all is good.
Well you have passed the hardest part in all honesty,it's only going to get easier from here on end,congratulations.
Just remember piggy,when the cravings do come they won't be as intense or as frequent.I found drinking/sipping on water and taking really deep breaths helps. But of course,in the end,it's all in your mind mate.You must have a strong mental attitude to beat this most deadly poison.
You know,nicotine is weird as fuck, about a month ago i actually stopped having cravings,i was so relieved at the feeling of normality for a change: my body was not craving a deadly poison. And then it happened! The most painful severe craving you could ever imagine,i was screaming my lungs off from the intensity,and it lasted a good minute or so.
I interpreted it as nicotine trying to make a final comeback before it finally gave up on me .
How about to first reduce the pressure on ur brain? U know ur goal and u know the way u have to go. U just have to figure out, if u can make it all at once, or not. If not, u have to accept to move step by step. If u feel like, just smoke one or two. But don't lose ur track and keep going. One day u will feel, that u r really rdy to do it.
I never smoked, but experienced different arguments with myself. Two stories quite fit with ur issue. Its about two different kinds of pain. Not to not bore u, i will just tell one of them. When I was almost 12yrs old, i had the luck to climb a mountain with a friend of my grandpa. There was not much time for me to prepare it, but i wanted to make it to the summit no matter what it costs. we had to pass a fairly steep icefall and i started to feel quite frightened. This quickly lead to exhaustion. As the friend realized my state, he decided to turn back. Once we arrived at the hut, i locked myself in a small toilette and cried. I felt it was such a shame and a big defeat. Later i was told that i might have reached the summit, but wouldn't have enough energy to go down. i was taught to learn from it, that it is important to be honestly rdy for something, without an inner fight.
Quite open text by my standards... Anyway, i hope it might help a little.
Unless you have been addicted to nicotine it is impossible to understand. I get your point though. I do not know anyone who has managed to quit by cutting back, and gradually reducing their dependency. I know plenty that have tried that way though. The best way I think, is to go cold turkey, and change your whole daily routine. Giving up coffee at the same time makes a big difference as well.
I only started to drink coffee when i quit.
Tomorrow is a big milestone for me: 9 fucken months . How you holding up piggy?
A few set backs but I am holding in there.
Well done btw.
A few here and there when I have been drinking.
That's not so bad. Maybe it'll be a good idea to stop drinking for a little while.
I dont drink much, not even once a week. It is good at weakening your resolve though.
NOOB AUSSIES AYE
nice, 9 months, you managed to survive the hardest part
Thanks for the support chem .
Today is one year exactly,never thought i could do it but i have persevered . I have saved easily $11,000 on the charming individuals but have spent it elsewhere on other crap. The extra weight hasn't come off either but i'm not bothered. How you holding up piggy,tell me you haven't caved in ?
lol i did NOT write " charming individuals" i wrote ffaaggss. Talk about censorship .
FFS the system even changed it to "studs" when i put a space between the letters .
Good stuff Sammy. Mate I can't even go the night with out waking up to have 1 ( or 2 ). But I've given up many worse addictions than the durries, so it's all good.
PS - looking for some dawk's supports to give shit to on Friday night ;p ( and no I'm not refering to you Auby. )
You know you're fucked when you need to wake up in the middle of the night to suck on a stick of nicotine . Ahhh...i sleep like a baby now .
Just thinking about my sleep is making me sleepy,gnite fellas
Ps Just a had a fat kebab and a slice of pizza from tc brothers,went down really well.
Wow nearly 4 fucken years....and i still have cravings! I swear, this shit is not normal.....how in the hell can someone still crave it after 30 years of quitting?
How you holding up old buddy?
Hey whats up maggz, how you doing matey? Did you buy or still waiting for that crash?
Haha, sitting on my hands and waiting, hopefully not too far off lmfao
Sup noobs. Haha haven't used that word in a while. Hope you guys are doing great!
We good mate, question is... how the heck are you? Did that east coast low come near you recently?
4 years and 5 days today, it feels damn good to have finally kicked the habit.
Well done bro, I'm still smoking. If I didn't I would prolly be in gaol.
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