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# 1sijindian Jun 24 2020, 10:06 AM
The person who often plays with us is named Miracle-, everyone suspects that he cheated, but there is no evidence, especially in this round, one of his gunboats knocked out a super martial art. Post a post to ask a master to watch the video and prove him. Cheating, thanks!


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# 2Leikeze Jun 25 2020, 13:00 PM
What cheat was he suspected of using here?

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# 3-NickName Jun 26 2020, 19:49 PM
I have no idea what is meant with this accusation. I have watched the replay and couldn't find anything that isn't allowed or something suspicious at least. For that reason, I validate this accusation as invalid.

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# 4fastAiR Jun 26 2020, 21:28 PM
QUOTE(sijindian @ Jun 24 2020, 10:06 AM) *

one of his gunboats knocked out a super martial art

Lol, wut xD

I mistakenly edited the wrong post. My apologies. - Squaggle


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# 5sijindian Jun 28 2020, 02:35 AM
QUOTE(Leikeze @ Jun 25 2020, 13:00 PM) *

What cheat was he suspected of using here?



One of his gunboats shot down super martial arts.

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# 6-NickName Jun 28 2020, 07:44 AM
QUOTE(sijindian @ Jun 28 2020, 02:35 AM) *

One of his gunboats shot down super martial arts.


What do you mean with gunboats? And what do you mean with super martial arts?

If you can screenshot the moment when he is cheating, according to you, that would be more helpful.

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# 7fastAiR Jun 29 2020, 01:15 AM
QUOTE(sijindian @ Jun 28 2020, 02:35 AM) *

One of his gunboats shot down super martial arts.

quads/gatts shot down a king raptor, or an alpha maybe?

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# 8-NickName Jun 29 2020, 15:34 PM
QUOTE(fastAiR @ Jun 29 2020, 01:15 AM) *

quads/gatts shot down a king raptor, or an alpha maybe?


Iirc Miracle- was afg, maybe some good micro with his vees (or vees with snd) or some split fire with raptors. But I don't see anything that is against the rules.

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# 9sijindian Jun 30 2020, 00:40 AM
QUOTE(-NickName @ Jun 28 2020, 07:44 AM) *

What do you mean with gunboats? And what do you mean with super martial arts?

If you can screenshot the moment when he is cheating, according to you, that would be more helpful.

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# 10Leikeze Jun 30 2020, 02:50 AM
Ah, so the SCUD Storm was camouflaged and he used his Spectre on it anyway.
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The Spectre did more damage than it should have (destroying a full SCUD Storm).

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# 11-NickName Jun 30 2020, 17:31 PM
Spectre gunship/gunboat, it makes sense now.

I think it was a level 2 spectre, and I did some test and it does quite some damage. Almost destroyed a particle, but it was shot down. Note that the AI was using 'hold the line'. However, if someone is sure that a spectre shouldn't kill a scud, please let me know.

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# 12sijindian Jul 1 2020, 13:37 PM
QUOTE(-NickName @ Jun 30 2020, 17:31 PM) *

Spectre gunship/gunboat, it makes sense now.

I think it was a level 2 spectre, and I did some test and it does quite some damage. Almost destroyed a particle, but it was shot down. Note that the AI was using 'hold the line'. However, if someone is sure that a spectre shouldn't kill a scud, please let me know.

His ghost killed the full-blooded Chaowu. We have tried repeatedly to prove that this is impossible?

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# 13fastAiR Jul 2 2020, 19:47 PM
QUOTE(-NickName @ Jun 30 2020, 17:31 PM) *

Spectre gunship/gunboat, it makes sense now.

I think it was a level 2 spectre, and I did some test and it does quite some damage. Almost destroyed a particle, but it was shot down. Note that the AI was using 'hold the line'. However, if someone is sure that a spectre shouldn't kill a scud, please let me know.

I havent tested it, but surely a spectre doesnt kill a scud storm alone lol, it had full health?
Ask Jundiiy or someone to check the damage files or test with someone#
Im 99% sure spectre does not kill the scud, that would make it the strongest weapon/power in the entire game and you assume it to be level 2 spectre as well.

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# 14-NickName Jul 2 2020, 20:18 PM
QUOTE(fastAiR @ Jul 2 2020, 19:47 PM) *

I havent tested it, but surely a spectre doesnt kill a scud storm alone lol, it had full health?
Ask Jundiiy or someone to check the damage files or test with someone#
Im 99% sure spectre does not kill the scud, that would make it the strongest weapon/power in the entire game and you assume it to be level 2 spectre as well.


I tried to test it, but kinda messed it up. But a spectre easily killed a strat center with hold the line. Also it didn't have fortified structure upgrade.

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# 15AnT1_Pr0 Jul 2 2020, 21:18 PM
Nick - I have gone to the trouble of reviewing this replay. Absolutely nothing untoward here.

Possible complaint 1 - he did not know where the scud was

Resolution - he hit the Scud a few seconds after it fired. The scud reveals its location when firing, like any stealthed unit. So, nothing dodgy going on here.

Possible complaint 2 - the Spectre kills the Scud in one go

Resolution - he had level 3 Spectre - which kills a scud

Personal conclusion - no fowl play. Invalid cheat accusation smile.gif

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# 16fastAiR Jul 2 2020, 21:42 PM
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Resolution - he had level 3 Spectre - which kills a scud

Really?? Then, Spectre Level 3 is the most powerful weapon out of everything in the entire game, more powerful then the moab, scud storm, nuke missile, particle. Level 3 demo ambush, and anything else. (Technically not, because msot of the others dont deal damage to the hole bar a few, which arent enough to kill it) But still surprised the spectre can, you actually tested this?

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# 17AnT1_Pr0 Jul 2 2020, 21:43 PM
QUOTE(fastAiR @ Jul 2 2020, 21:42 PM) *

Really?? Then, Spectre Level 3 is the most powerful weapon out of everything in the enitrre game, more powerful then moab, scud storm, nuke missile, particle. Level 3 demo ambush, and anything else.
Who knew


Indeed - it is insanely OP. So why don't people get it more often?

Simple I guess - it uses up 3 xp points! Heavy for any USA general

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# 18-NickName Jul 3 2020, 06:12 AM
QUOTE(fastAiR @ Jul 2 2020, 21:42 PM) *

Really?? Then, Spectre Level 3 is the most powerful weapon out of everything in the entire game, more powerful then the moab, scud storm, nuke missile, particle. Level 3 demo ambush, and anything else. (Technically not, because msot of the others dont deal damage to the hole bar a few, which arent enough to kill it) But still surprised the spectre can, you actually tested this?


I tested with a level 2 spectre and it destroyed a strat quite easily. Almost destroyed a particle with hold the line strat but it got shot down. That's also the main problem, level 3 spectre is 30 seconds I believe, but it will get shot down before it finish.

Ant1_pr0, thank you for your help.

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# 19sijindian Jul 3 2020, 06:15 AM
QUOTE(AnT1_Pr0 @ Jul 2 2020, 21:18 PM) *

Nick - I have gone to the trouble of reviewing this replay. Absolutely nothing untoward here.

Possible complaint 1 - he did not know where the scud was

Resolution - he hit the Scud a few seconds after it fired. The scud reveals its location when firing, like any stealthed unit. So, nothing dodgy going on here.

Possible complaint 2 - the Spectre kills the Scud in one go

Resolution - he had level 3 Spectre - which kills a scud

Personal conclusion - no fowl play. Invalid cheat accusation smile.gif

Level 3 Ghost Kills Undead Scud

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