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# 1Constable Chris Dec 30 2016, 12:33 PM
Greetings.

Dimon and I were talking , and decided to open a mentoring thread for people to ask him questions. He will answer accordingly.

Rules For Participating In This Thread


1- This is an educational thread, not a thread for trolling/insults/off-topic discussions.
Any troll/insult/off-topic post will be automatically removed from view

2- Other people are more than welcome to join the discussion in answering questions.

3- Maintain a polite attitude at all times. Any post causing a conflict to light up will be removed from view, and any subsequent post related to it.

4-While Dimon is a Soviet player, and he is not very fluent with the other factions, you can still ask him about Allies and Empire, though he can only give you general ideas, and not detailed ones. He specializes in Soviets.

5- This is not a thread to ask Dimon personal questions. This thread is to ask questions about improving at the game.

A tip for people asking questions : It would be best if you post replays so that we could get a better look of what you are asking about. This helps a lot in mentoring projects.

So this is it, if you wanna participate in this discussion, I kindly ask that you take this thread a bit more seriously, since this is meant to improve players at playing the game, nothing more nothing less. Thanks to Dimon for helping me out on this!



Question & Answer Library


Is Final Squadron more useful than Emperor's rage? Countering Allied tier 3 using Empire tier 2 : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987023

Dimon's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987035



Practicing control groups : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987075

Dimon's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987282



Improving Micro and Multitask : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987126

Dimon's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987285



Is it worth getting an engineer (protected by a battle bunker) in an SvA on Fire Island, against fast airfield ? : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987322

Dimon's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987323

B00M's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987627

GBHMichael's response to b00m's answer : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987798




Sickle Harassment against Empire: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987347

Dimon's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987362



Dealing with Cryocopters : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9987754

Dimon's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9988037



Best Hotkey Settings : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9988805

Dimon's Answer: https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9989494



Reacting to a crane opening as Empire : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9988889

Dimon's Answer : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9989498



Watching replays of games you lost in order to improve ? : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9990628

Dimon's Answer :https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?s=&showtopic=990245&view=findpost&p=9990893



Countering dog spam :https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?s=&showtopic=990245&view=findpost&p=9990798

Dimon's Answer : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9990900

GBHMichael's Answer : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9990846



How many bullfrogs to build in SvE and SvA ? : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9991133

Dimon's Answer : https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...t&p=9991388



This post has been edited by Constable Chris: Jan 10 2017, 19:49 PM

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# 2{DO}-LiquidOCELOT Dec 30 2016, 14:22 PM
ok i am gonna ask him regarding empire vs allies,
game that these sequence of events occured is down below
https://www.gamereplays.org/redalert3/repla...t=0#post9972133

Yuiyui is on tier 3 with athenna cannons 3 to 4, dimon goes mass infantry and a little bit tsunami, both equal on ref almost, but he some how manages to use final squadron and breaks defence of yuiyui's athenna cannons, i wanna ask him if fire squadrons are more special than empire rage on units and also what other suggetions he might give to counter allies tier 3 on empire tier 2 which i am struggling alot actually and am over dependant on busters which can be sniped by dogs and turret pks and stuff pls share

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# 3Dimon0000000 Dec 30 2016, 15:09 PM
QUOTE({DO}-LiquidOCELOT @ Dec 31 2016, 00:22 AM) *

ok i am gonna ask him regarding empire vs allies,
game that these sequence of events occured is down below
https://www.gamereplays.org/redalert3/repla...t=0#post9972133

Yuiyui is on tier 3 with athenna cannons 3 to 4, dimon goes mass infantry and a little bit tsunami, both equal on ref almost, but he some how manages to use final squadron and breaks defence of yuiyui's athenna cannons, i wanna ask him if fire squadrons are more special than empire rage on units and also what other suggetions he might give to counter allies tier 3 on empire tier 2 which i am struggling alot actually and am over dependant on busters which can be sniped by dogs and turret pks and stuff pls share

This Protocols is not important. Not effective in battle and have minimal effect on result compared to shields or missles upgrade. I just did what i can with things i had. This is actually his mistake - were not reasons to use shields, he could just run to base and lose nothing. Even without protocols inf was going to crash shields fast. Rage protocol isnt effective for me. Emp units anyway have great damage, but main advantage is mobility. Without it units becomes very vulnerable and die fast. Also this is great target for cryogeddon. Best weapon vs t3 is universal mobile army. He will not attack me with army if i can come and kill his base with tengu/vx any moment. Its what i did big part of game.
And idk where you found tsunamy in this game.

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# 4Thanatos` Dec 30 2016, 15:14 PM
I have a question - How do you play RA3? biggrin.gif

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# 5B00M Dec 30 2016, 15:15 PM
Nice initiative!

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# 6Constable Chris Dec 30 2016, 15:16 PM
Thank you boom smile.gif

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# 7Papa_Coming Dec 30 2016, 16:48 PM
How to practice group hotkeys "i already watch fpvods from dankal". How can i practice by myself. I dont see the effective side of using group hotkeys, and find it very confusing. Is it even normal i think so, or am i doing something wrong. What i do:

1: I play standad because i new on group hotkeys and cannot play crazy styles yet.

2: I make 2 bears engi + bear and 4-5 consripts. I give first bear number 1, second number 2, engi no number, third bear number 3, consripts number 4. When first consript come out, i give number 4, and i do everytime a couple of new consripts come out from barrack.

3: I try not to use w, and only use the numbers.

4: Then i make sickle and give sickle number 1, and terror drone number 4, because consripts in garrison.

5: but in the mean time i forget build second ref Superreactor or something because i focus too much on numbers.

6: rest of game is chaos for me, cannot control the numbers.

Is it normal?

Andd i try not to use minimap but press to times on the number of the unit i want to see. And i try not to use rectangle, but again use numbers

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# 8omni.Taz360 Dec 30 2016, 18:24 PM
Yo dimon stryderr here what's fastest way to improve micro and multitasking.

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# 9Constable Chris Dec 30 2016, 19:41 PM
Update: Since 1 thread will eventually get very messy when more questions are asked, and more solutions are posted, every single question and its respective answer, will be linked in the 1st post.

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# 10ViperMkVII Dec 31 2016, 02:09 AM
Woaw this is a great thing!

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# 11Dimon0000000 Dec 31 2016, 02:51 AM
QUOTE(WeKill @ Dec 31 2016, 02:48 AM) *

How to practice group hotkeys "i already watch fpvods from dankal". How can i practice by myself. I dont see the effective side of using group hotkeys, and find it very confusing. Is it even normal i think so, or am i doing something wrong. What i do:

1: I play standad because i new on group hotkeys and cannot play crazy styles yet.

2: I make 2 bears engi + bear and 4-5 consripts. I give first bear number 1, second number 2, engi no number, third bear number 3, consripts number 4. When first consript come out, i give number 4, and i do everytime a couple of new consripts come out from barrack.

3: I try not to use w, and only use the numbers.

4: Then i make sickle and give sickle number 1, and terror drone number 4, because consripts in garrison.

5: but in the mean time i forget build second ref Superreactor or something because i focus too much on numbers.

6: rest of game is chaos for me, cannot control the numbers.

Is it normal?

Andd i try not to use minimap but press to times on the number of the unit i want to see. And i try not to use rectangle, but again use numbers


You need understand this is fundamental part of any RTS game. Anyone was learning for this. Its normally you cant use it on Dankal level after 1 game of practice. Start with 2-3 groups, (for example 1 - td, 2-frogs, 3 - tanks), its pretty easy. It will become a habbit pretty fast. Then you will complicate your control system. Just some advices - make 1-5 number groups for most active units or units you need most fast control. When unit comes from factory - you just take him in group. Use rectangle, Q, W buttons for pick units. In process of time you will stop focus on it and do it automatically. And soon you will wonder how you was playing without groups before.

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# 12Dimon0000000 Dec 31 2016, 03:00 AM
QUOTE(omni.Taz360 @ Dec 31 2016, 04:24 AM) *

Yo dimon stryderr here what's fastest way to improve micro and multitasking.

Yo stridder dimon here i was explain this 234324 times before to you.
Practice high speed and intensive games, always try to play faster, dont stop brain in process of game and focus on control. Active control of few groups/types of units, control in 2-3 places same moment, all this improve your control skills.

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# 13GBHmichael Dec 31 2016, 11:17 AM
I'll get the ball rolling.

In an SvA on fire island where you start rax and against a fast AF, do you think that it is worthwhile going for an engineer with a battle bunker to protect it? Obviously, getting an early oil is beneficial, but you have to make sure that frog production is not slowed down. And another thing to take into account is that having an engineer in a bullfrog, coupled with a td in the early stages can completely negate mcv pushes to the centre.

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# 14Dimon0000000 Dec 31 2016, 11:30 AM
QUOTE(GBHmichael @ Dec 31 2016, 21:17 PM) *

I'll get the ball rolling.

In an SvA on fire island where you start rax and against a fast AF, do you think that it is worthwhile going for an engineer with a battle bunker to protect it? Obviously, getting an early oil is beneficial, but you have to make sure that frog production is not slowed down. And another thing to take into account is that having an engineer in a bullfrog, coupled with a td in the early stages can completely negate mcv pushes to the centre.

Its not affect srsly on frogs production, also you get some compensation after sell bunker and get oil. And ye, with this engi you can try to stop allies mcv push or get his fast ref(means he will waste vindicator for save it). But experience shows even if you dont make engi or lose it - its not affect srsly on game, there is a lot of much more important factors.

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# 15{DO}-LiquidOCELOT Dec 31 2016, 13:16 PM
ok now i wanna ask about early sickle harassments vs empire, with more smart players using burst drone its very cost oriented mixing sickle with bull frog going to empire collectors, i have seen people use sickle terror drone combo to harass collectors early in the piece question is, is it essential to go fast wf or not and 2 sickle 1 terror drone how to get most harassment via this method and how to garantee a harvester snipe with this pls explain cheers

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# 16Dimon0000000 Dec 31 2016, 13:53 PM
QUOTE({DO}-LiquidOCELOT @ Dec 31 2016, 23:16 PM) *

ok now i wanna ask about early sickle harassments vs empire, with more smart players using burst drone its very cost oriented mixing sickle with bull frog going to empire collectors, i have seen people use sickle terror drone combo to harass collectors early in the piece question is, is it essential to go fast wf or not and 2 sickle 1 terror drone how to get most harassment via this method and how to garantee a harvester snipe with this pls explain cheers

1)If sov do it as random move vs decent player = sov lose. Emp easy adapt and make mecha very fast, just tenguspam+ mcv support easy to win battle vs sickles then this tengus attack sov harvs free.
2)Emp always can just block ref-ore way and dont let sickle jump there. Low chanse for sov will kill harv.
3)WF before 2th ref affect very bad on sov economy and tactical freedom. (1)+(2)+(3) = sickles spam is bad idea.
Enything you do must be effective answer for opponent move. Ofc if emp do 3 ref start or inf rush - you can do sickles spam. Sometimes you can do it for faster expand to 3th ref if emp dont spam tengus.

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# 17BUn1997 Jan 1 2017, 13:10 PM
Well done Chris

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# 18Constable Chris Jan 1 2017, 13:17 PM
Thank you , Dimon deserves the credit too for coming on board with this smile.gif

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# 19B00M Jan 1 2017, 13:53 PM
Regarding fire Island, if you are on top position in SvA as Soviets and you get rax at the edge of your build radius left as first building, you can get the engi as first unit in the oil derrick before the vindicator (from fast AF build) can drop it's bomb.

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# 20B00M Jan 1 2017, 20:45 PM
I have a question regarding dealing with the most sh*t unit ingame, the cryocopter.

Do you sometimes consider it usefull to mass flak troopers against it instead of bullfrogs, and at what point is it intresting to make MiG fighters against an enemy who uses them? I feel like bullfrogs have a hard time dealing with them often, but flak troopers their limited mobility makes it very easy to catch them with cryogedon.. .

And do you consider it better to attack or defend and tech/out-eco up against someone who uses several cryocopters?

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