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Sucky PE gameplay but likely mh oppo

#1Jammem  Mar 27 2022, 13:27 PM -
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spam move command for his first rifle and see how he changes commands based on what my pgren is doing. Main evidence though is that he just mysteriously finds my vampire when 1. he had no idea I built t1; 2. vampire is never shown the entire game; 3. you can see he directly paths to the vampire; 4. He actually moves jeep to the vampire before I start stealing resources, so you can't give him the benefit of the doubt and say he has OP gamer skills (unless of course you count vampire running over shrubs as a giveaway, but there weren't any in that exact location anyway lol)
see for yourself at 9:20

For reference 76561197991201667 chenhua007very, level 9, was position 189

I just wanted to play a litte unconventionally ;_; I guess the meta is more mh proof
This post has been edited by Jammem: Mar 27 2022, 13:47 PM
#2regnar1194  Mar 27 2022, 22:00 PM -
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QUOTE(Jammem @ Today, 09:27 AM)
spam move command for his first rifle and see how he changes commands based on what my pgren is doing. Main evidence though is that he just mysteriously finds my vampire when 1. he had no idea I built t1; 2. vampire is never shown the entire game; 3. you can see he directly paths to the vampire; 4. He actually moves jeep to the vampire before I start stealing resources, so you can't give him the benefit of the doubt and say he has OP gamer skills (unless of course you count vampire running over shrubs as a giveaway, but there weren't any in that exact location anyway lol)
see for yourself at 9:20

For reference 76561197991201667 chenhua007very, level 9, was position 189

I just wanted to play a litte unconventionally ;_; I guess the meta is more mh proof


Just watched the replay a couple times man. The jeep does move to the Vampire but it is after his fuel income is reduced so that very likely clued him in. The death of the vampire was not a turning point. You lost map control very very early. You let him cap your fuel high value fuel right next to your base twice. I think the vampire build first was a very bad choice, maybe a scout car and you could have used that to push those riflemen out of cover so your PG's could hit them. You had lost map control but blobbed up your 4 PG's along with your Ket, and as a result of the 4 PG blob you hit that mine and it nuked you because of the blob.
#3Jammem  Mar 27 2022, 23:54 PM -
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dude no, are you blind??? Watch the replay again. Did you watch it on x8 speed and miss everything or something????????

The vamp didn't set up, god it wasn't even in the sector yet... I'm almost at loss for words how you can somehow even come to that conclusion and by extension why would you want to even come to that conclusion. I am honestly baffled how you even missed it despite claiming to have watched the replay several times.

Please glue your eyes to the screen, wait for 10:16, pause the replay and tell me my vampire halftrack is not in his +10 munitions. You should have surely seen anyhow if you followed my vamp from 9:20.

I also highly highly doubt that even if it did, a position 189 player would notice the resource drain that very second. I even SS but I don't think you can post them on here.

Did you not also see how the first rifle originally pathed to my side munitions to protect his capping engineers when he saw my pgrens coming and when I decided to turn back he decided to capture the +5 fuel on the island instead. Shortly after, he decides to attack my fuel with the rifle engineer combo but decides to randomly wait until I decide to send 1 pgren back to base to build t1.

Moreover, I never pretended for a moment that I played well, I even called my PE gameplay 'sucky', but that doesn't change the fact of matter that these occurences were highly suspicious
This post has been edited by Jammem: Mar 28 2022, 00:36 AM
#4Volkl  Mar 28 2022, 00:24 AM -
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Watched replay carefully from US perspective and the vampire was never revealed at any time from leaving PE base (around 9:20) to its destination at the north end of the road (around 10:20). The only clues a vehicle were present were crumbling brush as mentioned and perhaps someone listening to audio. The US fuel income never decreases supporting Jammem's statement that the vampire was not locked down. The jeep makes a direct line to the vampire once it stopped moving. It was not a search pattern. Say what you want about Jammem's failure to cap (it was atrocious, along with an ATHT wasting time shooting sandbags) but the jeep going directly to the vampire begs for an explanation.
This post has been edited by Volkl: Mar 28 2022, 01:13 AM
#5regnar1194  Mar 28 2022, 00:38 AM -
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QUOTE(Volkl @ Today, 20:24 PM)
Watched replay carefully from US perspective and the vampire was never revealed at any time from leaving PE base (around 9:20) to its destination at the north end of the road (around 10:20). The only clues a vehicle were present were crumbling brush as mentioned and perhaps someone listening to audio. The US fuel income never decreases supporting Jammem's statement that the vampire was not locked down. The jeep makes a direct line to the vampire once it stopped moving. It was not a search pattern. Say what you want about Jammem's failure to cap (it was atrocious, along with an ATHT wasting time shooting sandbags) but the jeep going directly to the vampire begs for an explanation.


It does decrease, I saw it
#6Jammem  Mar 28 2022, 00:43 AM -
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QUOTE(regnar1194 @ Today, 00:38 AM)


It does decrease, I saw it


I don't know what drugs your CoH is on, but see for your own eyes how my vamp isn't even in the fuel sector yet and actually hasn't stopped moving.

I do hate that listening through FoW is essentially a soft maphack but if his senses were really that honed, don't you think he would be in the top 50 at least.

Join statements discord to see

https://discord.com/channels/86401296308515...801920737726505
This post has been edited by Jammem: Mar 28 2022, 01:01 AM
#7regnar1194  Mar 28 2022, 01:06 AM -
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QUOTE(Jammem @ Today, 19:54 PM)
dude no, are you blind??? Watch the replay again. Did you watch it on x8 speed and miss everything or something????????

The vamp didn't set up, god it wasn't even in the sector yet... I'm almost at loss for words how you can somehow even come to that conclusion and by extension why would you want to even come to that conclusion. I am honestly baffled how you even missed it despite claiming to have watched the replay several times.

Please glue your eyes to the screen, wait for 10:16, pause the replay and tell me my vampire halftrack is not in his +10 munitions. You should have surely seen anyhow if you followed my vamp from 9:20.

I also highly highly doubt that even if it did, a position 189 player would notice the resource drain that very second. I even SS but I don't think you can post them on here.

Did you not also see how the first rifle originally pathed to my side munitions to protect his capping engineers when he saw my pgrens coming and when I decided to turn back he decided to capture the +5 fuel on the island instead. Shortly after, he decides to attack my fuel with the rifle engineer combo but decides to randomly wait until I decide to send 1 pgren back to base to build t1.

Moreover, I never pretended for a moment that I played well, I even called my PE gameplay 'sucky', but that doesn't change the fact of matter that these occurences were highly suspicious

What possible motivation would I have to try and defend him? Could have he been maphacking, maybe. He started moving his jeep before you set up but not necessarily right towards your jeep. If he was maphacking he had two engi's one with a flamer and a rifle squad right there close to your vampire, if he was maphacking he probably would have just killed you right then with those units. I play PE almost exclusively, and I root for them because they are the most gimped faction in this game. If he was maphaching he didnt need to. He pathed his original rifle to your high value fuel because he was going to cap it, which is kind of basic strategy. You had no presence on the map, you had a PG near his engi that was capping the muni point near your high value fuel and for some reason you brought him back to base???? then he coupled it with his rifle and capped your fuel, thats no map hack, thats you allowing him to cap your most high value fuel point right next to your base.He had most of the map capped and you were building T1 and T2 buildings??? Your first unit other than a PG was the Vampire and he could see you building the logistics company so maybe he expected the Vampire. He had a Tank depot by the nine minute mark, if he was map hacking which is wrong and crap he didnt need to because at no point did you offer any serious resistance to him.
#8regnar1194  Mar 28 2022, 01:09 AM -
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QUOTE(Jammem @ Today, 20:43 PM)


I don't know what drugs your CoH is on, but see for your own eyes how my vamp isn't even in the fuel sector yet and actually hasn't stopped moving.

I do hate that listening through FoW is essentially a soft maphack but if his senses were really that honed, don't you think he would be in the top 50 at least.

Join statements discord to see

https://discord.com/channels/86401296308515...801920737726505


LOL yes drugs. My god man stop whining, if you are butt hurt about the loss thats all well and good but a three year old could have been playing and beat whatever it was that you were doing. Truth hurts, I get it.
#9Volkl  Mar 28 2022, 01:19 AM -
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Regnar, you are correct that the vampire did drop US fuel income from +33 to +24. I was being dyslexic and looking at inventory, not income.

However, not sure that the matter is settled. The US jeep is parked at the center VP at 9:15. It starts to move at 10:16, hangs a right going north on the road at 10:21 for reasons that are hard to fathom (if legitimate). The vampire isn't locked down until 10:26. The US player would need spidey senses to interdict a vampire before it starts siphoning. So I'm less convinced that observation of the fuel reduction was behind the movement.
#10regnar1194  Mar 28 2022, 02:15 AM -
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QUOTE(Volkl @ Today, 20:24 PM)
Watched replay carefully from US perspective and the vampire was never revealed at any time from leaving PE base (around 9:20) to its destination at the north end of the road (around 10:20). The only clues a vehicle were present were crumbling brush as mentioned and perhaps someone listening to audio. The US fuel income never decreases supporting Jammem's statement that the vampire was not locked down. The jeep makes a direct line to the vampire once it stopped moving. It was not a search pattern. Say what you want about Jammem's failure to cap (it was atrocious, along with an ATHT wasting time shooting sandbags) but the jeep going directly to the vampire begs for an explanation.

The Vampire did lock down, because it cloaked. I suggest you watch it again
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