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the most op army vs the poor brit army

#1DieLeibstandarte  Jan 22 2018, 01:15 AM -
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the most op army vs the poor brit army
#2SuchIsLife  Jan 23 2018, 05:08 AM -
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What's your Point?
You only play Wehr in 1v1 and they have a huge advantage over Brits. I'm guessing you're either ignorant of the imbalance or your trying to defend why you only play with the odds on your side.
Losing with Brits is extremely frustrating but winning with them is 10x more rewarding than with Wehr.
As I've said before, GR is full of replays where average level Wehr players beat top level Brit players but show me a game where an average level Brit player beats a top level Wehr player. There isn't any because the imbalance makes it almost impossible.
This post has been edited by SuchIsLife: Jan 23 2018, 06:07 AM
#3Arashenstein  Jan 23 2018, 06:31 AM -

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QUOTE(SuchIsLife @ Today, 05:08 AM)
What's your Point?
You only play Wehr in 1v1 and they have a huge advantage over Brits. I'm guessing you're either ignorant of the imbalance or your trying to defend why you only play with the odds on your side.
Losing with Brits is extremely frustrating but winning with them is 10x more rewarding than with Wehr.
As I've said before, GR is full of replays where average level Wehr players beat top level Brit players but show me a game where an average level Brit player beats a top level Wehr player. There isn't any because the imbalance makes it almost impossible.

Brits in COH1 are OKW in COH2, their design is stupid and not fitting the game mechanics. In COH2 I always play Brits because Brits are the hardest faction against Axis and in COH1 Brits are outplayed against both Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite but if they glitch and take Staghound then they can win in the most cheapest way which is really stupid (1v1). But I really can't blame them, allies are punishing in steam edition you either have to play with laming or deal with losing.
#4SuchIsLife  Jan 23 2018, 07:12 AM -
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QUOTE(Arashenstein @ Today, 16:31 PM)

Brits in COH1 are OKW in COH2, their design is stupid and not fitting the game mechanics. In COH2 I always play Brits because Brits are the hardest faction against Axis and in COH1 Brits are outplayed against both Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite but if they glitch and take Staghound then they can win in the most cheapest way which is really stupid (1v1). But I really can't blame them, allies are punishing in steam edition you either have to play with laming or deal with losing.


To quote the great Sepha, "Wehr>Brits whether the Brit uses Stags or not."
People complain about Stags but they forget that using them comes at a cost of giving up all Tank Vet. Pio Spam is a cheaper way to win than Stag Spam but it doesn't stop 90% of Wehr players from doing it!
Stag Spam might be a pain but it's not an "I Win" button. They're no match for anyone prepared for them. Besides, without Stags Brits can usually be over run far to easily.
#5DieLeibstandarte  Jan 23 2018, 18:48 PM -
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QUOTE(SuchIsLife @ Today, 05:08 AM)
What's your Point?
You only play Wehr in 1v1 and they have a huge advantage over Brits. I'm guessing you're either ignorant of the imbalance or your trying to defend why you only play with the odds on your side.
Losing with Brits is extremely frustrating but winning with them is 10x more rewarding than with Wehr.
As I've said before, GR is full of replays where average level Wehr players beat top level Brit players but show me a game where an average level Brit player beats a top level Wehr player. There isn't any because the imbalance makes it almost impossible.

Its easy to play brit... U not need to learn how mg42, packs, snipers, volks, etc works... To play brit, u just need know how to blob units. Brit army is the most patched army in this game cause of op units and bugs. Play wehr or pe is hard, but always there is a noob who cry abt tiger or king tiger
#6Arashenstein  Jan 23 2018, 20:42 PM -

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QUOTE(DieLeibstandarte @ Today, 18:48 PM)

Its easy to play brit... U not need to learn how mg42, packs, snipers, volks, etc works... To play brit, u just need know how to blob units. Brit army is the most patched army in this game cause of op units and bugs. Play wehr or pe is hard, but always there is a noob who cry abt tiger or king tiger

PE is click to win buddy. Wake up from this axis fan boy dreams. SuchIsLife knows me for many years and I hope he still knows how much I hated Brits back in 2010 and how hard I was defending Panzer Elite because they were so hard to play as against specially USA Airborne.
The 2.602 patch should never have happened, yes the brits had kangaroos which was so broken but that was the ONLY issue with the balance in 2.601
2.602 brought panzer elite to an extremely easy to win army from the most being the most difficult faction to play as. This is how you measure the balance:
Imagine there are two players in 1v1 both in same skill level, one is USA other is PE. The PE has 90% chance of winning, same goes to Wehrmacht. In 2.601 Volks grenadiers were not a fighting unit at all and they were outplayed against Rifles even without bars. 2.602 allowed volks blob because the upkeep and lower reinforcement cost and better accuracy buffs. The MG42 price was reduced which again was a mistake, the Pak reduced from 310MP to 290MP which is AGAIN stupid.
I am just being fair and not being a fanboy and hope by this point SuchIsLife has noticed this if he remembers my posts back in 2010. The problem with 2.602 was the beta patch was in progress for 5 months and a few experts like Seb + Aimstrong + CharlsDarwin + Freestyler were chosen to give direct suggestions for that patch. But none of them were trying the beta to see how their suggestions are effecting the gameplay. The most stupid ones came from CharlesDarwin and FreeStyler.
It was only me and 12ocky who were playing the 2.602 Beta and we both warned the developers like 10000 times that Panzer Elite is becoming ultra OP in same skilled games but well 12ocky was banned from GR and I was banned from GR as well so how could we deliver this feedback?
Aimstrong was/is one of my closest friends and he even told me himself that he has no time to put into 2.602 beta and so did Seb, none of them were playing the beta but they were throwing out ideas without even testing them and this is the result now. Look at leaderboards or players stats in the current patch. In 2.601 majority of people had amazing USA stats and high ranks and it was so rare to find PE or Wehr stats being in par with allied stats but if you were good with Wehrmacht then you were basically the master of microing.
In the current patch you don't need to be good at all but you just need to play with volks blobs supported by 2 snipers against USA and it is a win. Just check how many below average skilled replays are being posted by steam edition players and they all have super good Wehrmacht stats but very average USA stats. It is simply impossible to win as USA if your enemy is in your skill level.
#7DieLeibstandarte  Jan 23 2018, 22:11 PM -
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QUOTE(Arashenstein @ Today, 20:42 PM)

PE is click to win buddy. Wake up from this axis fan boy dreams. SuchIsLife knows me for many years and I hope he still knows how much I hated Brits back in 2010 and how hard I was defending Panzer Elite because they were so hard to play as against specially USA Airborne.
The 2.602 patch should never have happened, yes the brits had kangaroos which was so broken but that was the ONLY issue with the balance in 2.601
2.602 brought panzer elite to an extremely easy to win army from the most being the most difficult faction to play as. This is how you measure the balance:
Imagine there are two players in 1v1 both in same skill level, one is USA other is PE. The PE has 90% chance of winning, same goes to Wehrmacht. In 2.601 Volks grenadiers were not a fighting unit at all and they were outplayed against Rifles even without bars. 2.602 allowed volks blob because the upkeep and lower reinforcement cost and better accuracy buffs. The MG42 price was reduced which again was a mistake, the Pak reduced from 310MP to 290MP which is AGAIN stupid.
I am just being fair and not being a fanboy and hope by this point SuchIsLife has noticed this if he remembers my posts back in 2010. The problem with 2.602 was the beta patch was in progress for 5 months and a few experts like Seb + Aimstrong + CharlsDarwin + Freestyler were chosen to give direct suggestions for that patch. But none of them were trying the beta to see how their suggestions are effecting the gameplay. The most stupid ones came from CharlesDarwin and FreeStyler.
It was only me and 12ocky who were playing the 2.602 Beta and we both warned the developers like 10000 times that Panzer Elite is becoming ultra OP in same skilled games but well 12ocky was banned from GR and I was banned from GR as well so how could we deliver this feedback?
Aimstrong was/is one of my closest friends and he even told me himself that he has no time to put into 2.602 beta and so did Seb, none of them were playing the beta but they were throwing out ideas without even testing them and this is the result now. Look at leaderboards or players stats in the current patch. In 2.601 majority of people had amazing USA stats and high ranks and it was so rare to find PE or Wehr stats being in par with allied stats but if you were good with Wehrmacht then you were basically the master of microing.
In the current patch you don't need to be good at all but you just need to play with volks blobs supported by 2 snipers against USA and it is a win. Just check how many below average skilled replays are being posted by steam edition players and they all have super good Wehrmacht stats but very average USA stats. It is simply impossible to win as USA if your enemy is in your skill level.
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Lol i play 2volks + 2 snipers since coh release(2006) tongue.gif ... If i remember right i get lvl 15 xd... What abt you? U play this game since... 2010? 2011? I think U never pass lvl 13(even playing in a dead game, coh is dead since 2011)
This post has been edited by DieLeibstandarte: Jan 23 2018, 22:18 PM
#8Arashenstein  Jan 23 2018, 22:25 PM -

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QUOTE(DieLeibstandarte @ Today, 22:11 PM)
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Lol i play 2volks + 2 snipers since coh release(2006) tongue.gif ... If i remember right i get lvl 15 xd... What abt you? U play this game since... 2010? 2011? I think U never pass lvl 13(even playing in a dead game, coh is dead since 2011)

Is that why I went to semi finals in 1v1 2009? Because I started playing in 2010? That maths skills...
I am on COH community since 2006 where blitzkreig doc could send in two tigers with two stormtroopers, do you even remember that era?

Edit: My level with wehrmacht and US was 16 and PE 13 before the rank reset in 2.602
#9piwawsky  Jan 23 2018, 22:36 PM -
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guys, please, let's keep it civil here.
Our community is already small, no need to measure E-penises.
#10Argentinosaurus  Jan 23 2018, 22:37 PM -
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QUOTE(Arashenstein @ Today, 20:42 PM)

PE is click to win buddy. Wake up from this axis fan boy dreams. SuchIsLife knows me for many years and I hope he still knows how much I hated Brits back in 2010 and how hard I was defending Panzer Elite because they were so hard to play as against specially USA Airborne.
The 2.602 patch should never have happened, yes the brits had kangaroos which was so broken but that was the ONLY issue with the balance in 2.601
2.602 brought panzer elite to an extremely easy to win army from the most being the most difficult faction to play as. This is how you measure the balance:
Imagine there are two players in 1v1 both in same skill level, one is USA other is PE. The PE has 90% chance of winning, same goes to Wehrmacht. In 2.601 Volks grenadiers were not a fighting unit at all and they were outplayed against Rifles even without bars. 2.602 allowed volks blob because the upkeep and lower reinforcement cost and better accuracy buffs. The MG42 price was reduced which again was a mistake, the Pak reduced from 310MP to 290MP which is AGAIN stupid.
I am just being fair and not being a fanboy and hope by this point SuchIsLife has noticed this if he remembers my posts back in 2010. The problem with 2.602 was the beta patch was in progress for 5 months and a few experts like Seb + Aimstrong + CharlsDarwin + Freestyler were chosen to give direct suggestions for that patch. But none of them were trying the beta to see how their suggestions are effecting the gameplay. The most stupid ones came from CharlesDarwin and FreeStyler.
It was only me and 12ocky who were playing the 2.602 Beta and we both warned the developers like 10000 times that Panzer Elite is becoming ultra OP in same skilled games but well 12ocky was banned from GR and I was banned from GR as well so how could we deliver this feedback?
Aimstrong was/is one of my closest friends and he even told me himself that he has no time to put into 2.602 beta and so did Seb, none of them were playing the beta but they were throwing out ideas without even testing them and this is the result now. Look at leaderboards or players stats in the current patch. In 2.601 majority of people had amazing USA stats and high ranks and it was so rare to find PE or Wehr stats being in par with allied stats but if you were good with Wehrmacht then you were basically the master of microing.
In the current patch you don't need to be good at all but you just need to play with volks blobs supported by 2 snipers against USA and it is a win. Just check how many below average skilled replays are being posted by steam edition players and they all have super good Wehrmacht stats but very average USA stats. It is simply impossible to win as USA if your enemy is in your skill level.


Interesting data man. Didn't know those players were the chosen ones to patch the game
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