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12/5/2016: PE v. aKUAlMartinBand(US)

#11Sumitis  Dec 9 2016, 13:18 PM -
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@LuckyStilet

How do you think we have to play against pe?
They have powerful infantry, they can immobilize tanks, they have a HT mortar against at guns, etc...
Just now, I managed to hold 40 minutes against Wolvak, but I lost the game with three times more losses than kills!

EDIT: the following replay is good to see how to fight against an excellent pe player with us, but still, LuckyStilet had a lot of difficulties and only 50 points remaining at the end... By the way, it was against Wolvak.
http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes...s&id=315605
This post has been edited by Sumitis: Dec 9 2016, 14:11 PM
#12LuckyStilet  Dec 9 2016, 14:29 PM -
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@LuckyStilet

How do you think we have to play against pe?
They have powerful infantry, they can immobilize tanks, they have a HT mortar against at guns, etc...
Just now, I managed to hold 40 minutes against Wolvak, but I lost the game with three times more losses than kills!

EDIT: the following replay is good to see how to fight against an excellent pe player with us, but still, LuckyStilet had a lot of difficulties and only 50 points remaining at the end... By the way, it was against Wolvak.
http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes...s&id=315605

in US vs PE for US can be used insane amount of skill. And tbh in the end USA ahead. But it is way hardaer to play in the start on close to perfect level than as PE. Also I noticed few things:
1 now time more skilled USA players than PE so harder find good opponent for practice from that point
2 most of axis players play wm so even less chance meet good PE player
3 gameplay depands more from PE than from USA. I meanPE sets playstyle. And it is very many strategys, build orders, tactical moves, micro styles (some players almost no retreat and keep you cutted and hit you with AC, some early retreats to save MP).
4 also huge game process point - if you do early mistakes as USA - you throw so rapently and have almost 0 chance with good player, but if you do early mistakes as PE - you are behind but still if USA do even average mistakes- PE can come back and be in very strong posicion with very low chance for USA.
So that reasons in the end USA have to adapt to each style and each build order each doctrine, even to ketten or schwim play with way less practice than PE. Also you have very short time as USA to react. And PE can just follow his plan, with pretty good practice like 70% games vs USA and they all do about to same things. I think it depands more from that reasons than from balance in the end, which is in the end on US side imho
This post has been edited by LuckyStilet: Dec 9 2016, 14:52 PM
#1325Band  Dec 9 2016, 16:46 PM -
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@LuckyStilet

How do you think we have to play against pe?
They have powerful infantry, they can immobilize tanks, they have a HT mortar against at guns, etc...
Just now, I managed to hold 40 minutes against Wolvak, but I lost the game with three times more losses than kills!

EDIT: the following replay is good to see how to fight against an excellent pe player with us, but still, LuckyStilet had a lot of difficulties and only 50 points remaining at the end... By the way, it was against Wolvak.
http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes...s&id=315605

true
pe is so powerfull army,if 2 pro player start match (usa vs pe) will be pe winner
if 2 med player start match(usa vs pe) will be pe winner
so only skill not matther in fair matches ,even sometimes some med pe player can beat pro skill usa player.relic should fixed this patch but they didnt
#14LuckyStilet  Dec 9 2016, 17:07 PM -
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for example MaximusMiloserdny. Who use at least close style to his? no one I belive. How you can get skill against him? while USA most of players do the same. or t3 / or healing t3 / or healing t4. And he has good amount of practice against all of that. China player <HQ>DD use pg spam + HT, complexity fast AC with 2 ket TD. PE players almost always more skill than USA ! or you prepair in skirmishes vs good PE players or you have to have like x3 number of games to have close to same skill. but PE player play vs USA 1 by 1 in ladder, while USA play very rearly, so that reason PE grow up faster even if USA have same number of USA - PE games.
#15Sumitis  Dec 9 2016, 17:12 PM -
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In 2.301, PE was even more OP against the US: I managed to win against ZeroCrack with some stupid inf spam, though he was the best us player...

In the same way, I think that the US is OP against Whermacht.
#16c0mpl3x1ty  Dec 10 2016, 00:57 AM -
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I very rarely have to use my brain playing against US.

Brits are much tougher.
#17Kolaris  Dec 10 2016, 03:43 AM -
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Interesting. I think it comes down to playstyles like Stilet says, and maps. I've had a lot of hard PE games vs US and fewer vs Brits. I bet that's because I like Marders and avoid ATHTs. My US is comfortable vs PE and struggles against WMs who get an early Sniper.

Certainly US is very inflexible in this patch, there's not as many options as there are for PE and WM.
#18Sumitis  Dec 10 2016, 08:20 AM -
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I very rarely have to use my brain playing against US.

Brits are much tougher.


Yet, the US has many advantages against wehrmacht, as we can see in this kind of replay: Seb vs 12azor; 2.601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh4VjdcpenI

Riflemen are very good units...
#19INCruitTheROCK  Dec 11 2016, 11:46 AM -
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Can someone fill me in on which clan this is? I know RUKA but aKUAl is new to me.


Akual Martin - his real name
Band - clan name

ggwp! nice to see him back, more replays in da club pls!
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