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Nystrom/Dreamboat vs Aniketos/Vitensby

#1WiN.iT  Feb 24 2007, 21:44 PM -
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Great game played on Lorraine we were doing this for a practice matchup for CAL league. Tons of action going on constantly, lots of wire ownage, tiger spam, pershings and great mortar use. Really worth the watch, intense game till the end.[attachmentid=210793]

If you guys are interested in watching the game we all played together right after this Silver Replay. Check out this link:

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...howtopic=204282

Nystrom and Dreamboat played Axis and Aniketos and Vitensby played Allies, also on Lorraine.
This post has been edited by Architect: Mar 7 2007, 11:42 AM
#2Anik3tos  Feb 25 2007, 23:54 PM -
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GG for both games smile.gif
#3SomeBloke  Feb 26 2007, 17:24 PM -
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Heh, listening in to this on Ventrilo was hilarious.
#4Remox  Mar 1 2007, 02:34 AM -
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Do you want a review for both games?
#5Vitensby  Mar 1 2007, 08:25 AM -
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Sure Remox thatd be great!

Best,

Vitensby
#6Remox  Mar 1 2007, 13:53 PM -
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SO i'll! double hax0r reviews incoming.
#7Remox  Mar 1 2007, 19:08 PM -
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If this is the first of two, i don't know what the second would be like OMG!

nystrom/DrEaMbOaT vs Noob4tw/CompanyOfAxis

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Overview
Awesome game on Lorraine, with HUGE armor action, breathtaking Pirshing vs Tiger fights, wires and mines everywhere and StuH in action. Axis strategy was really aggresive, wiring the middle VP and then pushing from north with volksgrenadier spam and some MGs. It worked very well indeed and Allies had to go Double Barracks to counter attack the Double Wermatch (They already had WSC + Barracks). Mortars were lethal agains any kind of unit in the field, stormtroopers didn't shine against Tanks (May be getting 2nd Veterancy?), excelent Teamwork from both sides, complementing each other very good and overall micromanagment, oustanding.

Allies: nystrom/DrEaMbOaT
Went for a WSC + Barrack mix, altough you had to build another Barrack to counter attack the Volks spam, it was very well handled. Mortars worked perfectly behind the wiring stuff and between buldings. The pushes combining MG + Riflemen were very good and Axis had to retreat a few times. The strategy was solid, altough north and south were a little bit unprotected, the middle Lorraine was a real Battlefield.
When the Motor Pool arrived i started to watch its movement. The M8 did a harass into Axis HQ, while maybe it could have helped the middle Push, moreover it was a very good recon idea.
AT Drops + Pershing was a lethal late game mix, Tigers couldn't do anything, Stormtroopers were pwned by BAR Riflemen.

What this team can improve upon:
  • MG Retreating: there were squads of MG (specially those in buildings) that didn't retreat when Snipers arrived. It's better to reinforce than to build another squad!
  • Field defences in points like north VP where the action is not frequent and there is time to build a Bunker, mines, "repair" wire, etc. it's a good idea.
  • Lorraine is a very packed action map, and tanks are hard to micro. May be sending an unsupported Sherman between houses and narrow roads with cloacked stormtroopers in the area is not the best idea. A jeep could do the uncloacking job, plus the Sherman and some Riflemen. Also AT support, in late game it's not that important, but is something to take into account, a Sherman and an AT standing still, the right side unprotected...a cloacked stormtrooper and BOOM. AT destroyed, sherman ran away, the Tiger rush and who knows! ohmy.gif

Team overall: 8

Axis: Noob4tw/CompanyOfAxis
Great opening. While Noob4tw went capping, Vit wired mid Lorraine and prevent Allies from reaching the VP. After that, Noob4tw cutted the north VP resources capping the ammo spot and Vit early rushed with Volks spam to deploy some more wire. There were few MGs to supress Riflemen who outnumbered Volks and kill them in close combat, so maybe that is one of the main reasons because the ALlied push was a success. Therefore, the map control was very good and harassing, like cutting resources like the south fuel. Mines behind wires, very good there.
The mix of Tiers was solid, but not so versatile. In a 2v2 the best you can do is mix units from tifferent Tiers, and here may be a T1-T2-T4 + Veterancy support would have been great. So, you have Panzer IV with AT, Stormtroopers with Shreks (and may be Mg40) plus mp40 Volks and Veterancy upgrades. This is a strategy add-on comment, just to help! biggrin.gif

What this team can improve upon:
  • Stormtroopers usage: both of you had Stormtroopers, some of them along with Shreks, but the Shermans were rolling freely (or almost freely) with Pershings! I don't know if in Lorraine Stormtroopers are THAT effective. The Shreks bounced in the ground, BAR riflemen were everywhere and Shermans had MG42 in their head. From my point of view, the lack of T2 Support against Tanks and the geography of the map, didn't make them very usefull. Only when StuHs where fighting, storms with shreks destroyed 1 or two Shermans. The micro was good indeed! One possible solution is 2nd Veterancy storms, they will be more resistant to supression.
  • Volks spam slowed T4 rush, in a way or the other, volks had to retreat, and reinforce...this all costed manpower. If volks wouldn't have rush like that up to almost Allied base and died quickly, T4 would have come faster and counter attack early Shermans. Although the strategy of Volk harass is good, good good.
  • Pushing/harassing late game: You two got stucked when the two Pershings appeared. Tigers didn't do what they have to do (destroyyy and destroyyy, in this case Pershings), because as they didn't have a lot of Infantry support, AT was a pain in the neck plus Tank destroyers who are faster than the Tiger and do rear attacks. So, both focused in the Phershings instead of may be cutting down some fuel, or taking and solid defence VPs. It was the only thing you could do, i know, to destroy those Phershing, but 5 Tigers (or more?) plus 3 squads of Storm with Shreks can rush where they want and harass quite fast! Another strategy comment to help future Lorraine wars ^^

Team overall: 7.5

Entretaining value: 8
Overall Rating: 8

RotW contender!
Silver Replay!
Gold Contender!
This post has been edited by Remox: Mar 2 2007, 02:10 AM
#8DeadStatix  Mar 1 2007, 19:28 PM -
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Wow im watching this one biggrin.gif
#9Brewer_Jackson  Mar 2 2007, 06:18 AM -
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First one is maybe my all-time favorite. Second one is just plain harsh.

Brewer/Rbale2
#10WISE Architect  Mar 7 2007, 11:42 AM -
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Promoted to Gold.


Congratz. cool2.gif

Pls PM one of the CoH Admins for the gold medal. I dont have ACP acess atm.
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