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Help - Americans vs PE matchup

#1Shadilay  Feb 4 2019, 10:59 AM -
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Hi guys, can someone please tell me what I should have done better in this game ? I think the first half was pretty good except that first engagement where I thought my rifles will kill the PG in the house when they are close xD. I destroyed a few of his vehicles and also squads and still he managed to do something. I think I should go for AT guns instead of Shermans, but IDK.

Thanks for your help
#2DesertDust  Feb 5 2019, 20:50 PM -
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7 downloads, no one said anything. I'm not the best, but i'll try to help...

Imho you may want to consider a start with jeep. You can push his units out of cover and deal damage with riflemen + chase kettenrads. You generally don't want to get riflemen upgrades as first, because they don't fight well against G43 squads in cover. This time you got lucky, when you upgraded bars, he has built an infantry halftrack. Grenades weren't that necessary, it would be better to go for motorpool and later WSC. Remember to plant mines and lure him into them.

And if you see PE on the loading screen - don't go infantry company. Just don't. It results in long, boring games, in which you lose a lot of rifles/rangers to butterfly bombs, falschirmjagers and wirbelwinds. In this game you could use rapid deployment to train two snipers faster - it would help with G43 squads. But in most cases it is better to go armor. Most luftwaffe abilities are anti-infantry, so if you focus on vehicles - 2/3 luftwaffe = trash. Airborne is also a good option, because you can drop AT guns without teching to motorpool and go for sherman instead. Strafe helps with PG blobs.

Imho infantry company is only useful, if your opponent went Tank Destroyers tactics. You may see several succesful games with infantry company vs PE - i won't deny - but its really better to avoid it. It will save you a lot of time.

You have pressed him hard wave after wave with riflemen squads, but you didn't kill many of his units. He was just retreating in most cases - it looked that way for me. AT guns would help with wirbelwinds and halftracks. And a sniper or two with G43 squads.

He didn't play that well, he let you throw sticky bombs in some situations, but it didn't change the game. Shermans had the potential to change the game for you, but vetted shrecks killed it quickly. It helps to engage shrecks squad first with other units, so they will fire their rockets into infantry, instead into tank.

#3Zillion  Feb 5 2019, 21:55 PM -
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Or tank destroyers instead of sherman?
#4Shadilay  Feb 6 2019, 07:49 AM -
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QUOTE(DesertDust @ Yesterday, 20:50 PM)
7 downloads, no one said anything. I'm not the best, but i'll try to help...

Imho you may want to consider a start with jeep. You can push his units out of cover and deal damage with riflemen + chase kettenrads. You generally don't want to get riflemen upgrades as first, because they don't fight well against G43 squads in cover. This time you got lucky, when you upgraded bars, he has built an infantry halftrack. Grenades weren't that necessary, it would be better to go for motorpool and later WSC. Remember to plant mines and lure him into them.

And if you see PE on the loading screen - don't go infantry company. Just don't. It results in long, boring games, in which you lose a lot of rifles/rangers to butterfly bombs, falschirmjagers and wirbelwinds. In this game you could use rapid deployment to train two snipers faster - it would help with G43 squads. But in most cases it is better to go armor. Most luftwaffe abilities are anti-infantry, so if you focus on vehicles - 2/3 luftwaffe = trash. Airborne is also a good option, because you can drop AT guns without teching to motorpool and go for sherman instead. Strafe helps with PG blobs.

Imho infantry company is only useful, if your opponent went Tank Destroyers tactics. You may see several succesful games with infantry company vs PE - i won't deny - but its really better to avoid it. It will save you a lot of time.

You have pressed him hard wave after wave with riflemen squads, but you didn't kill many of his units. He was just retreating in most cases - it looked that way for me. AT guns would help with wirbelwinds and halftracks. And a sniper or two with G43 squads.

He didn't play that well, he let you throw sticky bombs in some situations, but it didn't change the game. Shermans had the potential to change the game for you, but vetted shrecks killed it quickly. It helps to engage shrecks squad first with other units, so they will fire their rockets into infantry, instead into tank.




Thank you, I dont like vehicles personally cause I have a bad micro, but looks like I have to get used to them.
#5S1mply  Feb 8 2019, 02:56 AM -
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greetings shadilay, late response but here is the latest twitch replay of me playing against high level pe, you can skip through this if you feel like it.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/376830157

basic tips against pe, or atleast how i usualy approach them. is avoid fighting until u have 3 rifles and a flamer.
get a jeep to hunt ketten and push grens. get one mine down on some random position u might get lucky catching the ac which would be a huge win.

after 2 engies rifle jeep rifle rifle. id usuayl get m8 asap. unless i realy done bad and all my rifles are -60 % health id get heal to avoid hard mp bleed.

When u got m8 u kinda have to guess how close he is to atht. What techs have u seen, did he got heal? flame nades? 1 or 2 Ac? any of those fuel spendings are an indication the atht is gonna be delayed which u can use to your advantage. For example if i see 4 grens 2 ac and heal. I know my m8 is uncountered unless he has tellermines, but most pe`s are luftwaffe doc anyways so 2 m8`s + field repair can finish the game at that point or atleast secure u a huge part of the map back. Standart follow ups are heal, stickies, paks and snipers. Maybe sometimes even 2 m10`s with AWM to drive into his lines and take out mortars or smthn.

U want to have combined arms as USA mostly u wont be able to finish them just with one tech.

But as soon as bar, paks and snipers are on the field pe is gonna have a very hard time.

Gl trying something like this. id be intrested how future games went gl smile.gif
#6Shadilay  Feb 8 2019, 11:42 AM -
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QUOTE(S1mply @ Today, 02:56 AM)
greetings shadilay, late response but here is the latest twitch replay of me playing against high level pe, you can skip through this if you feel like it.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/376830157

basic tips against pe, or atleast how i usualy approach them. is avoid fighting until u have 3 rifles and a flamer.
get a jeep to hunt ketten and push grens. get one mine down on some random position u might get lucky catching the ac which would be a huge win.

after 2 engies rifle jeep rifle rifle. id usuayl get m8 asap. unless i realy done bad and all my rifles are -60 % health id get heal to avoid hard mp bleed.

When u got m8 u kinda have to guess how close he is to atht. What techs have u seen, did he got heal? flame nades? 1 or 2 Ac? any of those fuel spendings are an indication the atht is gonna be delayed which u can use to your advantage. For example if i see 4 grens 2 ac and heal. I know my m8 is uncountered unless he has tellermines, but most pe`s are luftwaffe doc anyways so 2 m8`s + field repair can finish the game at that point or atleast secure u a huge part of the map back. Standart follow ups are heal, stickies, paks and snipers. Maybe sometimes even 2 m10`s with AWM to drive into his lines and take out mortars or smthn.

U want to have combined arms as USA mostly u wont be able to finish them just with one tech.

But as soon as bar, paks and snipers are on the field pe is gonna have a very hard time.

Gl trying something like this. id be intrested how future games went gl smile.gif



Ok ty smile.gif
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