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Dawn of War 3

S4 vs Kist

Charon's Rest (2p)
Charon's Rest (2p)
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Orks 9?T
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Eldar S4
#1S4ngetsu  Nov 10 2017, 16:10 PM -
Kist abusing deffkopta to the max. Tbh it's ridiculous how Orks can spam them with scrap...
GG tho !
#2Spirit.  Nov 10 2017, 18:15 PM -
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Yeah without the scrap thingy it would be ok i guess but the scrap bullshit makes it pretty op as you get punished for destroying them, kinda silly.
#3GuruSkippy  Nov 11 2017, 09:33 AM -
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QUOTE(Spirit. @ Yesterday, 20:15 PM)
Yeah without the scrap thingy it would be ok i guess but the scrap bullshit makes it pretty op as you get punished for destroying them, kinda silly.

? what do you mean, punished for destroying them
You can't build a deffkopta from a deffkopta scrap. The scrap is not big enough for that.

Though, I do agree that building from scraps should be changed from 50% to 75% of the original cost. (and 75% of HP to compensate)
#4Spirit.  Nov 11 2017, 10:41 AM -
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I thought he means the scrap electric whatever thingy that comes out if you destroy one.
#5S4ngetsu  Nov 11 2017, 12:10 PM -
QUOTE(Spirit. @ Today, 11:41 AM)
I thought he means the scrap electric whatever thingy that comes out if you destroy one.

No that would be Wazmakka's presence...yeah that is pretty good as well biggrin.gif
But i ment the fact that you can build vehicles like deffkoptas for half of their prize with scrap and with almost no building time.

50/50 Deffkopta with 80 DPS (maxed WAAGH) is insane...
You saw how my spectre got owned by them ?
#6Spirit.  Nov 11 2017, 12:14 PM -
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I think as eldar you need wraithguards vs that, spectres dont really work cause they are to squishy. Maybe also prisms help but they are easy targets. Guess you need a mixed army but mostly wgs. Thats what blasta did one game vs murda, he spammed coptas in the first game he tried spectres but it didnt work out. In the next game he did go for wgs and that was way better.
#7S4ngetsu  Nov 11 2017, 12:15 PM -
Yeah, choko gave me the tip to spam vypers instead of spectre, i think they are the hard counter to deffkoptas, should have done that ! Also with scorps command instead of presence.

But still, vyper cost 125/125 - more than double of the deffkopta cost...

I don't like wraithunits at all, i think they are only effective in the very lategame when you allready have 3 prisms out...
This post has been edited by S4ngetsu: Nov 11 2017, 12:19 PM
#8VindicareX  Nov 20 2017, 00:21 AM -
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The scrap salvage mechanics does get a bit ridiculous over the course of the game.

Especially come late game... Orkz start getting Big Trakks at 50% price - insane! Their vehicles certainly aren't that bad to begin with, so against a good player it can start to get really hard to trade well. Big Trakk spam late game is a very, very hard composition to beat.

The mechanic needs a nerf. Maybe have them start with far less HP, forcing them time to wait to repair before they can fight? This way, the lower cost is balanced with a much longer down-time. Could always just make it a 33% discount instead.

Orkz are so inundated with scrap after the 2nd tower is online that it's kinda hard for even a good player to salvage them all. Maybe rework the rate and accessibility that orkz get scrap?

Or make it have progressive scrap timers - 30 sec for 1st drop, 60s for 2 stack, 90 seconds for 3 stack...
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