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Dawn of War 3

Elf vs SM 1v1

Charon's Rest (2p)
Charon's Rest (2p)
00:30:31
Eldar Choko_Bambus
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Space Marines 9?T
#1Chokolata  Sep 14 2017, 16:34 PM -
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I seem to be encountering this a a lot lately. Tactical marine spam into DW and chappy. Luckily i was able to hold on and the game became quite fun to play.

Enjoy
#2HARRYY  Sep 14 2017, 17:54 PM -
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GG

Kyre + Macha at their best. you used them very well, also kyres plasma bbombbbbs, which most whiners cant use at all.

sad part: SM can do shit about it. there is nothing to counter them, once they are fielded, esp when theyre backed up you cant defend against eldars regular infantry mix + those two heroes.

Just imagine, no matter which infantry the SM used, kyre would just shut them down nearly alone. scouts = worthless, setup team? = byebbbbye. Tacs = wiped too.
There are no real counter, no unit (not even vehicles) can stand this eldar approach. I cant even think of an SM Elite that could deal with it.
Assault terms are garbage any game, he just picked them for the doctrine I think. Ranged termins might bbbe good, but kyre would just pull them too.

bottom line:
even if SM ridiculously over-invest in Tier one (he made the T2 upgrade at 14 th minute?), hes not able to hold off eldar from snowballing the SM down with the mix of units and those two heroes.

utility of machas phase-shift is something people dont recognize yet. Seriously, most people dont perceive it yet.former dow2 players know how fukcing crazy WSE w phaseshift can be.

IMO kyre should be EP 6 , just for this mad utility dealing with regular infantry, pulling them into you army to wipe shit, or kkeep things at distance just w his regular slow.

75% defense buff of macha didnt play a role here, just kkill stuff in conjunction w kyre.

Im trying to not bbe biased, bbut eldar in good hands are not really beatable. OFC the eldar has the higher effort to micro - as alawys in dow-games. but I strongly bbelieve theres something wrong w eldar.

anyway, very good play with a good long-term plan by choko. he really waited for his goodies and played them devastating.
This post has been edited by HARRYY: Sep 14 2017, 17:58 PM
#3Chokolata  Sep 14 2017, 18:35 PM -
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I bought upgrades early. Also, he bullied me early game and I was essentially on one generator farm. Also, when Dio dropped he bullied me again and took my shield. The only reason I was able to push back was because my upgrades kicked in and I was bleeding less then he did.

He played well but his strategy was too one dimensional and in the end it fell apart.

As for Kyre and Macha. Well, imho they are the only two good elites to field vs SM. They offer a good balance of early game impact and late game viability. Macha with her stunes and damage reductions and Kyre with the CC (eldar has poor CC otherwise) and Spectre speed doctrine.

Also, his late game elite choice was too tailored towards the marine blob.
#4S4ngetsu  Sep 15 2017, 13:56 PM -
QUOTE(HARRYY @ Yesterday, 18:54 PM)
GG

Kyre + Macha at their best. you used them very well, also kyres plasma bbombbbbs, which most whiners cant use at all.

sad part: SM can do shit about it. there is nothing to counter them, once they are fielded, esp when theyre backed up you cant defend against eldars regular infantry mix + those two heroes.



Lol ofcourse you can't do shit if you just tac mass T1 and on top of that some flamers so your tech falls behind even faster.
This replay is a good example of how bad it is to mass tacs only until the 15 min mark...

Imagine the SM had gabe instead of useless terms. Then he would have easy fights against kyre and a possible comeback after this tacmass failure.

Also Choko played 95% of the game with higher upgrades than the SM did. Also he invested in ressource upgrades so he had not rly the need to capture more points to keep up with his opponent.

Anyway, this game proves that tac mass is only strong in phase 1. But this guy kept doing it till the 15 min mark and got rekt =)
#5HARRYY  Sep 15 2017, 17:18 PM -
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gabe would get trashed as well as he cannot catch up as well. bbbbut yeah, ofc the SM should switch tactics at some point
#6Chokolata  Sep 16 2017, 06:47 AM -
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IMHO It is a good thing that a spamm strat got beat with balanced play smile.gif
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