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PAC rush OP?

#21Numbfish  Jul 4 2017, 09:08 AM -
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QUOTE(phantom9399 @ Today, 00:20 AM)


pac's are trash even in numbers

that's too far biggrin.gif
#22OverLorD666  Jul 5 2017, 04:08 AM -
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QUOTE(osiris128 @ Yesterday, 11:43 AM)

I watched countless replays and never saw someone successfully defended his/her base when many PAC armadas at the base.

When I am faced with a pac armada with devastator support that I can't handle regularly (in TG III), I mothership the armada (I am usually a scrin faction)---It works for me like 9 out of 10 times no matter how big the armada is and it's just so funs to do as well and when it happens to them, they usually quit, (which is funny. I love watching the replay through their pov and try to imagine the look of dismay on their faces when they lose the armada they have been making the entire game).

For any faction though, the SW (especially Srin’s) works nicely against a pac spam and lastly, another way is to make multiple mcvs and spam upgraded AA turrets with macro provided you have the eco to support it. We are just talking about a pac spam scenario here, there are host of things that can make the strategies to deal with them go awry. A simple pac spam is relatively easy to deal with even more so with a scrin faction but you have to be a decent player first.

I also have a replay here, successfully defending against a pac armada as T59 but provided that the pacs were cuming to my base and not at my base. As I recall, you watched it.
#23osiris128  Jul 5 2017, 04:25 AM -
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QUOTE(OverLorD666 @ Today, 06:08 AM)

When I am faced with a pac armada with devastator support that I can't handle regularly (in TG III), I mothership the armada (I am usually a scrin faction)---It works for me like 9 out of 10 times no matter how big the armada is and it's just so funs to do as well and when it happens to them, they usually quit, (which is funny. I love watching the replay through their pov and try to imagine the look of dismay on their faces when they lose the armada they have been making the entire game).

For any faction though, the SW (especially Srin’s) works nicely against a pac spam and lastly, another way is to make multiple mcvs and spam upgraded AA turrets with macro provided you have the eco to support it. We are just talking about a pac spam scenario here, there are host of things that can make the strategies to deal with them go awry. A simple pac spam is relatively easy to deal with even more so with a scrin faction but you have to be a decent player first.

I also have a replay here, successfully defending against a pac armada as T59 but provided that the pacs were cuming to my base and not at my base. As I recall, you watched it.

I remember, i watched a game, can't say which, where a mothership fire simply annihilates countless PACs, that was so satsifying. Maybe i should stop saying PACs are unstoppable/unbalanced, they are T3 super units after all, pricey as hell, when there are 30+ mammoths rolling to the base, its pretty hard to stop them too (or is it lol).
#24Phoenix`  Jul 5 2017, 05:53 AM -
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How do you even get 30 PACS lol? Are you playing "no rush 2hours" or something jesus xD
#25osiris128  Jul 5 2017, 08:23 AM -
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QUOTE(Phoenix` @ Today, 07:53 AM)
How do you even get 30 PACS lol? Are you playing "no rush 2hours" or something jesus xD

I was in a game with other 4 players fighting each other, i was pretty busy killing heroic Zocom marv etc, there was one scrin camper on the other side of the map, as only we 2 left, he just annihilated my 3 bases with an air armada. just nothing worked, even a superweapon could not do much, had to take down his slingshot killing tripods, meanwhile the slingshots just shot bullshit things and died one by one, of course the scrin player stops just outside the AA turrets range and destroys them with devastators and waits for the opponents money goes out and his units rank up. Firehawks take down some units and go with them into the heaven. Felt a bit unfair. Didn't even take 1 hours for him to create that bug shaped ships. i already saw him earlier what he was doing, and i all the time pulled my hair and was like, kill him, before it lays more eggs, but the raged other players just want to destroy me and did not care about him. biggrin.gif
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#26nextonline  Jul 5 2017, 13:20 PM -
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QUOTE(Phoenix` @ Today, 01:53 AM)
How do you even get 30 PACS lol? Are you playing "no rush 2hours" or something jesus xD

It's not uncommon on Gardens. You fight someone, then there's two more people potentially fighting each other, and then there's one more player who may build up without having to fight anyone for at least 20 minutes.
This does not happen in any other mode though, unless it's a no-rush noob game.
#27eXs.bikefan  Jul 5 2017, 14:26 PM -
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QUOTE(osiris128 @ Today, 08:23 AM)

I was in a game with other 4 players fighting each other, i was pretty busy killing heroic Zocom marv etc, there was one scrin camper on the other side of the map, as only we 2 left, he just annihilated my 3 bases with an air armada. just nothing worked, even a superweapon could not do much, had to take down his slingshot killing tripods, meanwhile the slingshots just shot bullshit things and died one by one, of course the scrin player stops just outside the AA turrets range and destroys them with devastators and waits for the opponents money goes out and his units rank up. Firehawks take down some units and go with them into the heaven. Felt a bit unfair. Didn't even take 1 hours for him to create that bug shaped ships. i already saw him earlier what he was doing, and i all the time pulled my hair and was like, kill him, before it lays more eggs, but the raged other players just want to destroy me and did not care about him. biggrin.gif

It may have felt a bit unfair but in reality it is not unfair. PACs is the type of unit that becomes exponentially more dangerous the more of them are built. The production of PACs needs to be stopped before it reaches a critical number. In this particular case the mistake was to let the PAC-spammer do what he wants. If the number grows too high you simply did not use the proper counter. They're fine as they are.
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#28osiris128  Jul 5 2017, 16:02 PM -
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QUOTE(Claymore92 @ Today, 16:26 PM)

It may have felt a bit unfair but in reality it is not unfair. PACs is the type of unit that becomes exponentially more dangerous the more of them are built. The production of PACs needs to be stopped before it reaches a critical number. In this particular case the mistake was to let the PAC-spammer do what he wants. If the number grows too high you simply did not use the proper counter. They're fine as they are.

How could i just skip the neighbor players and attack the farthest player, when my 2 neighbors' ultimate goal was only to destroy me? biggrin.gif
#29eXs.bikefan  Jul 5 2017, 18:27 PM -
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QUOTE(osiris128 @ Today, 16:02 PM)

How could i just skip the neighbor players and attack the farthest player, when my 2 neighbors' ultimate goal was only to destroy me? biggrin.gif

You could not do it, but your neighbors could have attacked the guy. They did not and therefore the guy amassed his army and they lost. That is what FFA is. He who wants it fair and square should play 1v1.
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