Rise of the Witch King

Dread Men
Meg Ang
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Brice Isen
Cam Gob

wow guys..! maybe the best replay since a year or longer for me! great game, wp by all players, special wp to cam and dread... who dominated the game! some mistakes in the game but in my opinion, it could be HoF material!!
some things i noticed that i missed a little in that game( i could be wrong of course):

Cam: i kow u dont like riders offhost...but they could have helped u to not get this disadvantage in mid game..when u bring him to do more pikes.. also missed some hero.. gobking with ls would have helped i think

Meg: would by banners from rax rangers... arrow rain and wind pwns.. vs isen and gob,.
maybe upgrade ur fort to iceball.. is like one more 25 pps

dread: maybe theoden earlier with cava...or boro with horn and arrow wind vs mass gobs..

brice: maybe do unit upgrades...unit upgrades i missed for all factions except gob warriors..
at a point money doesnt play a big roll, especially isen can upgrade units.. they need it in late game i think.. same for man and ang.. trolls rangers etc

only some thoughts...dont wanna teach anyone becouse i cant do it better..its just things i noticed while observing..

comments on this by others would be nice! especially the players..
wp all!

ye rly nice game, i didn't expected us to win this game tbh xD
cam did rly great here

to answer u turgon, i don't think i had time for unit upgrad mate, got doubled rly hard and nearly all pps non stop on me
so i had to rebuild buildings and units all the time, i rarely had more than 4 units out, so took me a while to get my first 25pp xD

was imo the biggest mistake from dread and meg, to double me too much
not worth to focus so much on me at a certain point, they should keep their 25pps for cam base imo ( especially earthquack), i had nothing so i couldn't help him at all

cam couldn't go for fast riders, we played with huge delay that game, so i think he took right decision to spam hard + fast fire drake

Will watch!

ok understanding u brice...ye u got doubled hard tbh.. but managed it quite well!
nice to see how u get better and better again:) not the old strenght yet, but u get closer^^

for the record and for those who talk about my shitty host, I hosted a game right after this one and it was very smooth and lagg/delay free. my con is way better now lately and if u experience lagg or delay, it doesn't have to be always me.

really nice game, I watched quite a bit until my nab comp forced restart to install updates
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lot of comebacks though

will rewatch to end sometime soon, but will wub anyway cuz was already very gd game. Imma little tired now...


This game brings up many balance issues too for 5.0, for example:

• Personally I like Fuel the Fires effecting Gob/Mordor mills in 2v2 but this may be changed for 5.0 sadly. It gets crazy in 4v4 but who cares about balance in 4v4 tbh xD (u guys just needed more mills but was hard with good harassment from dread and meg)
• rohan spearmen, I heard they may get slight buff idk why, I think they ok atm
• ithilien ranger, I heard they getting buff too? Seemed very good this game, tbh is scary to think if they are stronger

+1 silly fatass
archers are alrdy strong, a buff would be bs

it also show that ring in cw games is damn fun, sadly i heard they want to buff sauron gala like on bfme2 to give them incredible powers, so we won't see them anymore in cw, ring will be banned from cw

When I have time to start casting again I will cover this game .


Fuel the Fires changes aren't planned right now. We never got most of Andy's plans for v5.0 and are working from scratch on a lot of things. If enough people think it's an issue though we can add it to the list. Otherwise we can leave it.

We're not buffing Rohan Spearmen or Rangers, though the idea was explored. Rohan Spearmen are really weak but that seems to work out fine right now, plus Men can upgrade to Tower Guards later anyway. Ithilien/Dunedain Rangers are actually the weakest elite archers in the game, and are significantly weaker than Dark Rangers by the way, but Men are really more about strong cavalry than strong archers and they still do fine right now anyway from what I've seen.

Mordor and Gobs shouldnt benefit from it.