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Dj Kaiser vs Loki_fc

#1Dj_KaIsEr  Apr 13 2008, 09:12 AM -
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Feeling more comfortable with china after 1.01a biggrin.gif So here we have two civs that were drastically affected by 1.01.
Game started with a jan rush that some han armies with disciples bothering jannis could fend it off, then fortress age battles which IMO were just great, with lots of micro and nice mercenary pickings by both sides. I would like a review for it especially some solid opnions about wonder pickings (stay with porcelain or go summer palace then confucian academy for example?) and chinese colo warfare. Download the replay and enjoy, people, I can garantee there are a lot of big fights, later you could wub it and make a Dj happy banana.gif
#2KaiserVonNuben  Apr 13 2008, 17:50 PM -
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I will watch and prolly wub, DJ... your games are always fun to watch and I'm sure this one will be no different. Old Han is the way to go in 1.1a, no question about it.
#3Shadoxlamer :)  Apr 13 2008, 18:09 PM -
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I'll reveiw then smile.gif
#4Dj_KaIsEr  Apr 13 2008, 21:15 PM -
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thanks, kaiservonnunben for enjoying my games and shadox for reviewing them biggrin.gif I still insist that han armies still have a hard time after patch since the counters have been reinforced and it may be just me but I think ordinary xbows and pikes do better than ckn + qiangs, that was not the case here but hard HI rush are still tough to deal early on cos you cannot, say, go only CKN vs the starting jan force, and steppes aren't worth of raiding even a kindergarten. The sun starts to shine again when china makes it to fortress age, though thumb.gif
#5z0p!  Apr 13 2008, 22:21 PM -
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Well played banana.gif
I do like to see that someone uses native tribes for a chance, don't see that alot in replays sleep.gif
#6Shadoxlamer :)  Apr 13 2008, 23:45 PM -
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I'll have it done friday considering I can't really do much game related stuff during weekdays >_> frusty.gif
#7Cerbykins  Apr 14 2008, 20:41 PM -
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The micro as always is excellent. Anyone wondering why I had micro practice with this guy, watch this replay. You'll see he doesn't give you many free shots. smile.gif

There were only really a couple of problems at all. The main one centres around power units like spahi and mercs....he dropped them right on your army and I was praying you'd realise how bad they tend to be at the start of age 3 and try to escape to preserve your sk's. (I learned through hard experience armies disappear fast when those sorts of units show up sad.gif ) Despite it, you did just fine and as always, he got little in the way of easy kills. smile.gif

For the guy who likes native use...watch for certain civs and certain maps. Sufi war elephants are super-popular although the HP is a bit low to gain cuir-style popularity. The other big case is when a civ lacks a certain type of unit (like a good age 2 skirmisher) and the native has it (like a Cherokee rifleman) that's when you might see them getting used. And long games of course to bust the pop limits.

Good luck to Shad reviewing, you'll have trouble finding holes in his play wink.gif - and wubbed.
(Honest I will get back to playing eventually, stuff's hectic in the background and as you can see I'm settling into my new 'job' here too tongue.gif )
#8Shadoxlamer :)  Apr 14 2008, 21:04 PM -
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Well what'd ya know, I got it done on Monday, lucky for you tongue.gif

Also, I wubbed it, quite an intresting watch Tbh.
This post has been edited by Shadoxlamer :): Apr 14 2008, 21:05 PM
#9Dj_KaIsEr  Apr 15 2008, 02:44 AM -
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i'm honored you guys enjoyed this game thumb.gif this one was really tough, I'm having video driver problems and the graphics sometimes break it a little, and Loki had defeated me before with a jan rush in the very first day of 1.01 patch, when I was adapting to pos-patch chinese. Yes I agree aging up with confucian academy seems very uncommon to get it for fortress, but I found it very good due to arquebusier shipment and the flying crows, which I misjudged those awesome siege units so much but they packed a punch vs some infantry units like macehualtin and probably would hurt jans and possible abus. Yes in fact I was alert for any artilhery foundries but then otto would take a bit long to produce enough abus to really threat me, and that would give me time to get into fortress and then I would go Imperial Army instead of Territorial Army. Believe me, iron flails slaughter abus and there's not much jannis can do because flails have splash dmg and can kill abus quite quick and run away into safety while chinese arquebusiers fire at will. TBH, I'd rather fight abus-falcs-jan combo than those fierce spahi-mamluk combo, but I always have a manchu detachment standing by for anti-op cav. Anyway, thanks for watching and wubbing thum.gif I hope this replay will be useful for chinese players to see that China can still have a very decent army without depending on disciples.
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