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Kanes Wrath

Can you stop this allin?

#1Yonk  May 21 2009, 21:07 PM -
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Allin vs Dackel very difficult to stop.
#2AveiMil  May 21 2009, 21:18 PM -
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Ouch that does look difficult to stop. If your opponent fails to scout it it's probably not possible to stop it. But if it's scouted mass missles or perhaps even mass pitbulls could work. Probably won't get out enough pitbulls in time though.
#3rick007  May 22 2009, 06:35 AM -
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This is the exact BO used by Dackel for games in the last Ladder Season... except he put rocket troops in the APCs.

Sad thing is, Dackel probably didn't know he telegraphed his strategy by practicing it with Dynamic for five games on the day before he lost to Relativit. They accidentally left "Battlecast" on, and all the replays were available to the public.

Relativit probably saw those games, because he countered it perfectly by just going mass pitbulls without even scouting it. I don't know if Dackel even knows to this day that those games were on battlecast.
#4Mr.Mc  May 22 2009, 07:00 AM -
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lol how long have you guys been around? This is an ancient strat and was used almost ALWAYS by gdi players in patch 1.01 where it was more difficult to stop. It is soo easy, all you do it 1 ref 1 harv(2 harv total, no second ref) spam pits, rockets, or even apcs only and you will win, that is all.
#5AveiMil  May 22 2009, 07:17 AM -
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lol how long have you guys been around? This is an ancient strat and was used almost ALWAYS by gdi players in patch 1.01 where it was more difficult to stop. It is soo easy, all you do it 1 ref 1 harv(2 harv total, no second ref) spam pits, rockets, or even apcs only and you will win, that is all.



Duuh, everything is easy to counter if you know exactly what is coming. It becomes a problem when you fail to scout it as if you just assume it is coming and mass early pitbulls and it dosen't come then you're behind in ECO and fucked either way.
#6rick007  May 22 2009, 07:23 AM -
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Duuh, everything is easy to counter if you know exactly what is coming. It becomes a problem when you fail to scout it as if you just assume it is coming and mass early pitbulls and it dosen't come then you're behind in ECO and fucked either way.


QFT. Not sure why Mr MC decided to talk down to everyone here when I already explained how to counter it. Kind of odd.

If you scout it, you don't even need a second harv. Just counter it right away with pitbulls, and crush your opponent.
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#7Unleashed_UA  May 22 2009, 09:24 AM -
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This rush easy stop for any scrin player... About this game - s hi t happends sometimes...
#8rick007  May 22 2009, 17:06 PM -
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TBH, once you see the upgraded pits/apcs. You can almost be certain your opponent is all-in air-rushing (especially with the timing). You are best to just start pumping out pitbulls and slowly sell 2nd ref, con, 1st ref (if no harvs left) as you need the money (not before). If you can get 10+ pitbulls, you will probably win without any eco (no point in re-building, you won't make it).
#9Mr.Mc  May 22 2009, 17:38 PM -
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You are supposed to wait to place your second ref until you can know what he is doing, if you place the second ref you most likely lose. Just simply wait a second while you scout him with the pitbull. The counter for this as nod is just cancel 2nd ref and spam nothing but raidar buggys, so as gdi you can spam your either choice of apcs or pits.

@rick I wasnt talking down to anyone, you didnt explain how to counter it that well, so I did.
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