Battle for Middle Earth

I decided to do a 1v1 QM as random and turned up as isengard, my opponent was gondor, at this he was rank about 1500 and I was 500 at the time. At the start I thougt, "he probably doesn't know about the knight shield bug" but was I wrong. I started by going fast FB and HA and trying to secure my side of the map. I just got FB and HA on one group of uruks when I saw his first knights commin I hurried over to a place and noticed that more elven wood was laied there so I changed dirrection and decided to get a couple more buiild plots. From then on it is almost non-stop action of me trying to take him out and he trying to finsh me. If you want to know who came out victorius then please watch the replay . To me this game was the closest I've EVER come to fluxuating from losing and winning. This is probably the closest game I've EVER played(by about 20 seconds from another gondor v rohan game It might be in BFME>org archives or here don't remember).

PLEASE review this game, durring it it felt like non stop action trying to go for the win + very exiting.

GandyDancer(Gondor)

+Good early knights harrassment
+Fast knights


-bad use of pippin imo. You could've used pippin to harass his laborers
-Fast marketplace? Very bad idea because without a barrack, you don't have any units that could kill his pikemen
-bad Knight micro. you could've finished off his first base alot faster if you microed better. You also kept running into his pikemen
-Bad power usage. When you used the eagles, you should've targeted his pikemen first and then lurtz. Instead you decided to attack his furnace. Only layed the wood twice.
-by the time when you got a barrack at the outpost, it was too late. Plus they are useless unupgraded against upgraded uraks



rating---------
-command/micro = 4
-strategy = 3
-overall player rating = below average

Moridorrulz(Isengard)

+You bought more laborers
+Fast ladder rush.
+You were fairly aggressive thoughout the game



-you should've upgraded your urak pit asap. Instead, you got 3 uraks and 1 crossbow. Next time, its best if you go 1 urak, 2 crossbow to rank up.
-needed to mass pikemen and less uraks. You couldn't defend the base really with only 1. Should spread out bunch of pikemen in your base to defend against horses considering he didnt have anything else to attack with.
-should've attacked his remaining farms to cripple his income. He was able to repair/ rebuild his outpost because those farms were giving his stable income.




rating---------
-command/micro = 6
-strategy = 3
-overall player rating = average

The Amazing Game



*Isengard takeover the outpost next to the enemy castle and builds a siege work shop


*he buys the ladder and sucessfully rushes his base



*now he has two base and Gondor is down to 1 outpost



*with several knight rush attempts he finally destroys isengards top base


*Gondors trying his best to prevent his outpost from being destroyed



*After preventing his attempt to takeout the outpost, he successfully rushes isengard base, with the help of eagles, and rohirrim



*They both have only 1 one outpost left



*The final battle was a race, called "Who can takeout the outpost faster"



*And isengard wins the race. GG!!






overall entertainment = 8.5
balance = 8
overall game rating = 7


Replay Promoted to
SILVER
-not because they played well, but because this game was very entertaining and unpredicatible. GG guys

This is a little bit off-topic but I've recently read a lot of statements like the one above.
Reading this, one might think that the knights shield bug is a bug which makes knights more resistant to arrows than "planned".

But isn't the "knight shield bug" referring to the fact that the armor vs arrows of knights with horse shields _and_ heavy armour is weaker than with horse-shields-only?
Meaning that currently heavy armor not only gives you _no_ extra protection but actually weakens it, the bug should rather be called "heavy armor-bug"?

So raiding bases with knights /w horse-shields doesn't rely on the knowledge of this bug because all the gondor-player has to know is that shields give protection against arrows.
(this could make us wonder why the knight-shield rush was "invented" so late )

Ah, congrats to silver!

Thx angra for the silver . I'm sry I didn't do so well, it was kinda late here and I was starting to fall asleep before the game started(not an excuse).

Actually the knight shields DON'T give armor just protection from arrows, mant people that QM still don't know it. I've gone against higher ranked people and they get both HA and HS. If you get both then your ARROW resistance is weaker armor doesn't change.

I know. Maybe I haven't made myself clear enough. We both mean the same, except i called it "armor vs. arrows" and you "protection vs. arrows".


Yes, I know that, too .
That's why i think it should be referred to as "heavy armor-bug" because adding hvy armor weakens your protection vs. arrows.
The point is if Gondor wants to raid your castle asap he would always buy horse-shields (at least until hvy armor is available from lev2 blacksmith) and start raiding right away.
To do this you don't have to know about the bug and not knowing it wouldn't weaken this strat (in early-game, until he adds hvy armor)
I'd agree that when hvy armor is available lots of Gondors would get hvy armor for their knights, I see that often, too.

I think both of us are meaning the same (more or less) it's just that I've read several post referring to the horse shield-bug as if the bug would be that the shields add too much protection.(this might be due to the fact that it's called "knight-shield-bug" ).

I just wanted to finally clarify that. (sometimes I'm such a geek... )

sry I've been gone for a while and I see your points, we are pretty much saying the same thing. Just wanted to verify that.