This is the most entertaining Gondor vs Mordor I ever played.
I'd like a rating for it.
Comments and tips are always welcome. Enjoy the watch
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Rating by: TheFatOFTheLanD Starting Possitions BcVcB / Gondor – West Anna_Pornikova / Mordor – East
Overview
This was a really entertaining game, with both players opting for an all out offensive strategy, instead of the usual defensive one. The game seemed to hang in the balance much of the time, with Gondor taking down mordor’s troll cage early, but a surprise mumakil attack put the pressure back on Gondor. Constant action throughout, definitely worth a watch by anyone interested in a different side to this match up.
BcVcB / Gondor
You struggeled at the start, quickly losing your soldiers, and doing no real damage to his economy. The fast harads then made it difficult for you to creep, only getting 3/6 but you harassed as well as you could, and what really got the game going was a very nicely executed HS rush taking down his troll cage with only one troll out. You then got back some sort of map control, and kept the pressure on his base, taking his cage down again and then saving for gandy. You looked to be getting control of this game, but then a surprise attack by the mumakil which you didn’t see building at the bottom outpost, but you back on the defensive, however you defended well with gandy and elves when they made it back. One of the turning points in this game was the first big battle in the middle, you were not prepared it seemed for his army, and lost all your archers, boromire and faramire. In such fight never use gandys LS far too risky, and you needed to have your archers spread out more, they were far too clumped. You were doing some good attacks on his base with gandy and knights, but only had archers to defend, so that when he came with catapults there was nothing to counter them. You needed to get gandy and knights back sooner, and not have them sat around at your outpost. You did very well to just save your castle, I thought you were going to lose it here but gandy came back just in time to kill trolls, but from here the game was slipping away from you and when gandy got sucked in to the attack on the right and you lost him it was gg, but very well played a nice game.
Mistakes / Things to improve
• Think about re-buying pippin, can really help you to spy, keep and eye on him. • Never use LS in big fights. • Needed at least one knight battalion to counter cattas at base. • May have been a good idea to get an archery range at your outpost as well as treb shop to help you with attacking his base. • Don’t let gandy be sucked in to meeleing trolls he will lose.
Anna_Pornikova / Mordor
Your start was very nice, you intercepted his soldiers early and did a huge amout of damage to him before he even reached your mill, forcing him to use heal, and then you workers repairing allowed you to save that mill. Imo you then should have got the top creep with your orcs and Gollum you had, which would have given you a nice cash boost. The have your first harrads and orcs at base take the one in the middle. You did really well to push Gondor back taking map control and blocked the middle well with harrads and orcs, until he got HS. The problem you had was that your with having a later troll cage you were wide open to a HS rush which he took full advantage off, and got your cage down, with only one troll out, and then lost your cage again shortly after. You made a good move going for a double troll cage to try and catch up, and the map control allowed you to do this effectively. Very nice work with the bottom outpost, secretly getting out a mumakil, and along with your trolls you could now go on the offensive, only made one mistake here, having trolls attack same wall as muma and getting injured, could have had them attack the next wall segment along. You decided to get a nazgul here to help you fend of the base rushes, and you used him very well, keeping Gondor on his toes and not wanting got send knights without gandy with them. You did well to mass some trolls and get some ranked orcarcher combos, so when it came to the attack in the middle you destroyed his archer army. From here you were able to take map control and then get outpost for cattas and the push on his base. At the same time he was attacking your base with knights and gandy, you had a drummer building, but didn’t wait and gandy killed the 3 trolls you had there, should have held back a few seconds. However you held him off and nearly took down his base, with gandy just getting there in time, you did well to get some cattas from your out post to your main base, so then you were ready to attack again and this time managed to push forcing him to attack with knights and gandy and you managed to kill gandy from which it was gg, rounded of nicely with a Balrog. Very well played.
Mistakes / Things to improve
• Faster creeping with orcs. • Better preparation for HS rush, hold back a couple of SOR. • Remember to get extra laborers at mills • Be carefull not to have drummers attacking, a couple of times this was the case. • Make sure industry is on 3 buildings.
Overall rating: 6 ROTW contender.
This post has been edited by TheFatOFTheLanD: Jul 14 2007, 10:43 AM
Nice to see the old palace strat again. Not seen much of it on fords since the early days of 1.03
rotw contender in my book, mabye even silver (dont rly remember, but it was at least a rating 6)
GG
Thanks a million Keidy My personal opinion why it's a good game is because both players, especially mordor, took lots of risk. I couldn't wait for my drummer when my mumakill was out and i was noob to let gondor take my cage down 3x But we were both concentrating to take enemy's base down and defending at the same time.
Thanks a million Keidy My personal opinion why it's a good game is because both players, especially mordor, took lots of risk. I couldn't wait for my drummer when my mumakill was out and i was noob to let gondor take my cage down 3x But we were both concentrating to take enemy's base down and defending at the same time.
Agree, there is always the issue for mordor, with the slow units they have, to be able to defend your main camp as well as seiging gondor. Your camp will always be voulnerable to gandy/knights etc, and a few times in this game, i thought the Mordor base was gone for sure.
But risk taken by both players only made this game more fun to watch, and not just a repet of most other games. I liked it, hope others do as well.
The bit that was new to me was when Jiho clogged middle passage with orcs and harads. It was risky buisness for knights to pass thru without getting seriusly injured. Even with shields.
The bit that was new to me was when Jiho clogged middle passage with orcs and harads. It was risky buisness for knights to pass thru without getting seriusly injured. Even with shields.
This is the most entertaining Gondor vs Mordor I ever played.
I'd like a rating for it.
Comments and tips are always welcome. Enjoy the watch
ty
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Rating by: TheFatOFTheLanD
Starting Possitions
BcVcB / Gondor – West
Anna_Pornikova / Mordor – East
Overview
This was a really entertaining game, with both players opting for an all out offensive strategy, instead of the usual defensive one. The game seemed to hang in the balance much of the time, with Gondor taking down mordor’s troll cage early, but a surprise mumakil attack put the pressure back on Gondor. Constant action throughout, definitely worth a watch by anyone interested in a different side to this match up.
BcVcB / Gondor
You struggeled at the start, quickly losing your soldiers, and doing no real damage to his economy. The fast harads then made it difficult for you to creep, only getting 3/6 but you harassed as well as you could, and what really got the game going was a very nicely executed HS rush taking down his troll cage with only one troll out. You then got back some sort of map control, and kept the pressure on his base, taking his cage down again and then saving for gandy. You looked to be getting control of this game, but then a surprise attack by the mumakil which you didn’t see building at the bottom outpost, but you back on the defensive, however you defended well with gandy and elves when they made it back. One of the turning points in this game was the first big battle in the middle, you were not prepared it seemed for his army, and lost all your archers, boromire and faramire. In such fight never use gandys LS far too risky, and you needed to have your archers spread out more, they were far too clumped. You were doing some good attacks on his base with gandy and knights, but only had archers to defend, so that when he came with catapults there was nothing to counter them. You needed to get gandy and knights back sooner, and not have them sat around at your outpost. You did very well to just save your castle, I thought you were going to lose it here but gandy came back just in time to kill trolls, but from here the game was slipping away from you and when gandy got sucked in to the attack on the right and you lost him it was gg, but very well played a nice game.
Mistakes / Things to improve
• Think about re-buying pippin, can really help you to spy, keep and eye on him.
• Never use LS in big fights.
• Needed at least one knight battalion to counter cattas at base.
• May have been a good idea to get an archery range at your outpost as well as treb shop to help you with attacking his base.
• Don’t let gandy be sucked in to meeleing trolls he will lose.
Anna_Pornikova / Mordor
Your start was very nice, you intercepted his soldiers early and did a huge amout of damage to him before he even reached your mill, forcing him to use heal, and then you workers repairing allowed you to save that mill. Imo you then should have got the top creep with your orcs and Gollum you had, which would have given you a nice cash boost. The have your first harrads and orcs at base take the one in the middle. You did really well to push Gondor back taking map control and blocked the middle well with harrads and orcs, until he got HS. The problem you had was that your with having a later troll cage you were wide open to a HS rush which he took full advantage off, and got your cage down, with only one troll out, and then lost your cage again shortly after. You made a good move going for a double troll cage to try and catch up, and the map control allowed you to do this effectively. Very nice work with the bottom outpost, secretly getting out a mumakil, and along with your trolls you could now go on the offensive, only made one mistake here, having trolls attack same wall as muma and getting injured, could have had them attack the next wall segment along. You decided to get a nazgul here to help you fend of the base rushes, and you used him very well, keeping Gondor on his toes and not wanting got send knights without gandy with them. You did well to mass some trolls and get some ranked orcarcher combos, so when it came to the attack in the middle you destroyed his archer army. From here you were able to take map control and then get outpost for cattas and the push on his base. At the same time he was attacking your base with knights and gandy, you had a drummer building, but didn’t wait and gandy killed the 3 trolls you had there, should have held back a few seconds. However you held him off and nearly took down his base, with gandy just getting there in time, you did well to get some cattas from your out post to your main base, so then you were ready to attack again and this time managed to push forcing him to attack with knights and gandy and you managed to kill gandy from which it was gg, rounded of nicely with a Balrog. Very well played.
Mistakes / Things to improve
• Faster creeping with orcs.
• Better preparation for HS rush, hold back a couple of SOR.
• Remember to get extra laborers at mills
• Be carefull not to have drummers attacking, a couple of times this was the case.
• Make sure industry is on 3 buildings.
Overall rating: 6 ROTW contender.