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[R] Isen vs Rohan on Fangorn

#1Misko  Aug 4 2006, 07:56 AM -
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Stats for game : W 1v1 ivr (bug: not registered)
BFME version : 1.03
Players : Alpha|BeornHawk vs rupa
Game played on : 2006-08-03
Duration: 01:08:00
Map : Fangorn forest
       Posted with BFME Replay Manager 0.99 beta

Fine match, lots of heart on Rohan's side, he simply refused to die banana.gif but in the end Isen prevailed. Definitely not a best Rohan I ever played, but isen vs rohan is allways super intense and my favourite matchup by far.

Review please (it's over 1 hour, but all action)


Just a note related to the bug: I have come across this bug several times now, somewhere on the forums it was even speculated that player on position 1 (aka host) can not lose the match if he doesn't quit but simply lets his opponent destroy all his buildings (citadel was the last building destroyed and game still didn't count). This is definitely something that needs addressing.
#2Grenness  Aug 4 2006, 08:38 AM -
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destroying cit last only work with mordor wacko.gif dunno why
#3Misko  Aug 4 2006, 09:25 AM -
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destroying cit last only work with mordor dunno why


Hi Grenness, Shinelyn told me that you have worked out the way how to effectively stop cheat attempts (DC to W/L bug, selling buildings etc). Was that last loss a succesfull W/L bug? Is there a definitive answer regarding player on position 1 not beeing able to lose (strangely enough I'm almost allways on position 2, not that I have an urge to cheat ofc).

Maybe you could write some kind of tutorial on how to prevent cheaters (I presume your 200+ consecutive victories recorded must have quite a system behind it, I usually get at least one cheat attempt in ten games, usually they succeed too).
#4Meshari_o  Aug 4 2006, 17:52 PM -
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thum.gif congratulation 4 ya but u have to see ur replays rupa for several times
in order to learn from ur mistakes at the end of the game when u wana try to
destroy his castle. biggrin.gif

ALPHA u were the best defender i saw cool2.gif
#5Guardian  Aug 10 2006, 12:20 PM -
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Tagged for me.
#6Guardian  Aug 10 2006, 14:30 PM -
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Alpha|BeornHawk vs rupa

Matchup: Rohan vs Isen

Map: Fangorn

Duration: 1 hour+


Alpha|

BO: 1 farm>farm,stable>farms>well>armory>archery ranger

Strat: Medium sized peasant spam to get some early map control>horses>aragorn>upgrades>peops>elves

PP: Peasant armor>heal>andruil


Pros:

smile.gif Good early harassment with peasants, not allowing a fod advantagous map to work to his advantage

smile.gif Good quick upgrades when you noticed wargs (good adaptation)

smile.gif Good horse micro not losing horses is a good way to win


Cons:

sad.gif Early cashfloating before stable

sad.gif No theo to help out the horses vs wargs

sad.gif i think the game stopped working for me towards the end because you both had huge cashfloating with unupped units.


Comments: You had a strong early game considering how badly this map is to fol armies. The peasant spam actually worked and pushed him back on his side of the map until wargs came. You have pretty fast ups to counter the wargs but no theo which was a bit surprising, i mean he can't hurt your army. I'm not sure why you went for aragorn but i think ents would have been the way to go. He didn't have fire and all he had was lurtz and wargs. Pretty much when you started making peos the game messed up so not much more for me too add besides good micro of horses and bad ara useage.


Rating: 5


rupa

BO: uruk pit>furnaces>wargpit>armory>outpost w/siegeworks and furns

Strat: A few uruks to hold off the peasants>wargs for map control>siege with fully upped combos

PP: warchant>industry>palantir>devastation


Pros:

smile.gif Good harassment with wargs. They dominated the map. Good creeping also you got more than him

smile.gif Trapped him and his heros inside his castle with lurtz and levled him up nicely.

smile.gif Good siege micro, using it to kill ara.


Cons:

sad.gif I would have started with 2 furns but its ur call

sad.gif Forgot about the southern mill and the one northern one

sad.gif Lots of cashfloating after you got saruman

sad.gif That middle outpost had nothing in it


Comments: This was a solid showing for you with early and complete game dominance, helped along by the map ofc. Pro warg useage landed you total map control, allowing you to creep it and trapping him in his base. Nice job getting upgrades before him (key to beating rohan is getting quick ups). right this is the point where the game stopped working.

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Rating: 6


Summary: Valiant effort by rohan to hold off the onslaught of isengard but failing in the face of isengards overpowered economy and wargs. Good micro by both sides.


[color="#3333ff"]Game rating: 5

Entertainment: 5

#7Misko  Aug 10 2006, 15:26 PM -
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Guardian, thx for the review, but it seems that longer replays get screwed somehow.

This one went all the way, PP progression definitely went rain -> balrog and he got AOD a little sooner ( bowdown.gif for excelent and relentless defending of rohan's castle) but the confinement to his castle prevented him to capitalise on it.

Thx for the review again, I could try to repost the replay if you want
#8Guardian  Aug 11 2006, 11:28 AM -
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Go for it but a different reviewer would have to watch it tbh. I don't think i could watch one that long more than once.

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