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[R] Hamthaw vs Bob

#1PlaTy  May 22 2006, 13:08 PM -
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This was a battle of me vs Orc lord Bob We both took random. I ended up being Rohan while my opponent established Camp Bob as Mordor wink.gif
It was a gg, with nice action, nice micro, nice entertainment i think. Iam clueless to what i could have done to win this, so maybe you guys can find it out innocent.gif

GG Bob thumb.gif
This post has been edited by Platysoma: May 22 2006, 15:51 PM
#2wickeD`  May 22 2006, 16:10 PM -
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PeTeR_TeH_KiNg's Review


AnOrcNamedBob (Mordor) vs HamthawTheTroll (Rohan)


Map: Fords of Isen
Version: 1.03


AnOrcNamedBob (Mordor)


PP Progression: EoS -> TL -> Industry -> Darkness
BO Start: Pit + Gollum, 2 Mills
Strategy: Orc Spam -> Haradrim Spam/Creeping -> Rhuns -> Nazgul -> Mumakils/Siege


Pros and Cons

thum.gif Using Gollum to help orcs killing Merry
thum.gif Good creeping
thum.gif Good Haradrim micro
thum.gif Correct use of formation in haradrim and soldiers of rhun

sad.gif Unprotected top outpost

Making your Cons become Pros



sad.gif Unprotected top outpost ---> thum.gif Protected outpost by putting Haradrim in top of citadel

Comments:
You had an excellent game overall. Started up with harassing him and defending your own Mills and then started to creep. Even with Rohirrim interfection, you got basically all creeps, and that's not a very easy task.

After the creeping you bought both outpost, and there was nothing Rohan could really do. Catapults spam + Mumakil Spam + Naz, and that's all (added to uber LD of course).

Your micro was awesome through the whole game, and your strategy was really good, even without trolls.

An important thing to point is that you used TL twice offensively, if he had EW he could counter all your LD. wink.gif

Rating: 6/10


HamthawTheTroll (Rohan)


PP Progression: Draft -> Heal -> Elven Allies
BO Start: 2 Farms in, Merry, 2 Farms out
Strategy: Peasant Spam/Harassment/Farm Defence -> 2 Rohirrim + Theo (lost 2 bats, rebuilded) -> Archers + Fire


Pros and Cons

thum.gif Sent Merry to kill laborers
thum.gif Used Cavalry formations correctly
thum.gif Lvl 4 Theo (without creeps)
thum.gif Made Eowyn to help killing Naz

sad.gif Lost 2 Rohirrim Bats while avoiding his creeping and harassing his base (first one you had heal by the time)
sad.gif No creeping
sad.gif Wrong PP selection

Making your Cons become Pros


sad.gif Lost 2 Rohirrim Bats while avoiding his creeping and harassing his base (first one you had heal by the time) ---> thum.gif Used Heal to avoid retreating units to get killed/Good Rohirrim micro avoiding Rhun
sad.gif No creeping ---> thum.gif Got creeps with one Rohirrim + Theo and sent another Rohirrim for harassing
sad.gif Wrong PP selection ---> thum.gif Bought EW to counter his uber LD and his TL.

Comments:

There were two mistakes who let you lose this game. First one was to use Rohirrim for harassing and to avoid his creeping. Vs Mordor you must creep fast to get at least 4 creeps (because vs a decent Mordor you will never get all). Second one was not to buy EW. That could have give you some good advantage when you attacked his south outpost (you had 2 points by that time).

Losing 2 of your Rohirrim didn't really hepled. First one you could have easily avoided by using Heal. Second one you could have turned to the other side of the furnace, and could have destroyed it before the Rhuns get to you. These were your main micro mistakes.

The only option you had was to buy Legolas since you had a good harassing force (2 Rohirrim + Theo). Also, upgrades do only help, Rohan upgrades aren't expensive, you could have bought Armor at least, that could have helped. wink.gif

Rating: 4/10


Game Comments: Mordor wins vs Rohan because of much faster creeping and bigger LD. A different game, without trolls and Legolas.

Entertainment Value: 5/10


Game Rating: 5/10


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This post has been edited by PeTeR_TeH_KiNg: May 24 2006, 23:52 PM
#3PlaTy  May 22 2006, 17:45 PM -
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Thanks peter, that was very fast biggrin.gif. Great Job

Yes about the micro, I totally lost sight of first Rohirrim innocent.gif. I rly had no clue were it went.
And about the second lost bat, I tought it would go through between the furnase and the outpost citadel, I was very surprised that it was too narrow for them.

About your how to make pros of cons. Its very nice of you to do it, but you have to mind the form of the verb your using.
See for yourself: No creeping ---> thum.gif Got creeps with one Rohirrim + Theo and sent another Rohirrim for harassing. YOu make it look like it did that, while actually i did not and your suggestiong it smile.gif
This post has been edited by Platysoma: May 22 2006, 17:58 PM
#4wickeD`  May 22 2006, 18:01 PM -
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THat was meant for you how you could have used Rohrrim to creep instead of harassing. smile.gif
#5purpose  May 22 2006, 18:05 PM -
Hmmm This rep was posted today, Peter you should take the older reps first. Look on page 3 or 4 if there are old replays posted early May or even late April. Pick those first.

#6Madow  May 22 2006, 18:13 PM -
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i like peters way of reviewing smile.gif
#7PlaTy  May 22 2006, 18:55 PM -
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Yes i were also surprised at how fast the review came.
Stil thanks peter, your way of reviewing is very nice.
#8wickeD`  May 24 2006, 23:53 PM -
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RotW Contender, congratz happy.gif
#9PlaTy  May 25 2006, 11:30 AM -
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Well i haddent seen that coming, Thank you
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