Battle for Middle Earth

nice game vs tommynt!!! He defend his base excellent

im going to leave tomorrow, so i hope a rr can take a look soon

EDIT - He used EW so he could crush my harad

Mine, review will be up tonight.

Also, I would be grateful if you could tell your clanmate "BeatMe" to stop acting like a total idiot during CW matches (calling me an arab? ) and to report his losses, otherwise an AR will be heading his way.

im not in sDs!!!!!! they think so..... thx for doing this so fast

once u said u would join
nvm, u left now

tommynt V Tereus

Matchup: Gondor v Mordor
Map: Fords of Isen


tommynt (Gondor)

BO: Farm + BS > 2 outside Farms > Farm + 2 BS > Stables > Fill with BS > Well > Archery Range > Outpost
Strat: Pippin scout through middle then 2 soldiers through middle > 3 knights > HS > Faramir > FU Knights > Gandalf > Archers
PP Usage: Heal > EW > GTW > Elves Summon

Pros:
Good hobbit micro at the start to kill several orcs and take down one of his mills
Put pressure on his settlements early game
Used Towers to stop him the first time
Used Elves to kill a nazgul
Generally good use of Gandalf, particularly his LS

Cons:
Put no pressure on his mills at the start, should’ve split soldiers up
Very poor and naïve use of EW, after using heal as first power you should only have used it defensively
Well was needed earlier
Needed archers far, far earlier. Boromir might have been useful versus the trolls too
General cashfloating and wasted 2k on a wall that was immediately destroyed
Faramir’s WA was wasted, never use it on the Witch King or Drummer Trolls.

Overall Gameplay: 4


Tereus (Mordor)

BO: Orc Pit + Gollum > 2 Mills > 2 SH > Haradrim Palace > Outposts > Fill with SH > Troll Cages > Outpost
Strat: Gollum claims mills, one orc through middle and one defend north, but then join together to defend middle > Orc spam > Haradrim > Trolls > Drummers > Witch King > Orc/Orc Archer combo > Nazgul
PP Usage: Eye of Sauron > Tainted Land > Industry > Darkness

Pros:
Waited at the beginning for him to use heal before using eye
Excellent speed at creeping with orcs/haradrim
Held early outposts with haradrim
Killed Faramir a couple of times
Used Trolls and Drummers to overwhelm Gondor’s base
Full use of Mordor’s LD

Cons:
Could’ve let haradrim take the XP at all creeps rather than orcs
Let level 2 orcs die too easily, such as citadel fire. This helped him to GTW.
Could’ve healed trolls inside his castle by eating an orc
Should be more aggressive with Witch King as an attacking unit when he had no archers
Didn’t kill Gandalf after the first siege, he had very low health.

Overall Gameplay: 6

Comments:
One thing that’s always been strange about Grenness’s replays is that upon loading them it says “game version may be different, do you want to continue?” It seemed funny that for the first half of the game the 2 players seemed to be using different versions themselves, Mordor with 1.03 and Gondor stuck with 1.02 – only without the laming!

Gondor’s start was extremely poor with no advantage taken of Mordor’s weak starting power. Gondor’s creeping also turned out to be quite slow, I would’ve left the one knight left from the top warg lair finish it off in wedge to get level 2 so it could regnerate. Mordor was able to get MC with haradrim and trolls and knights alone with Fara simply weren’t up to the task. After Fara you desperately needed archers, but went for forged blades and heavy armour for knights instead. Knights, whether FU or not, are simply no counter to trolls which what 1.03 is all about.

It wasn’t long before Mordor was banging on Gondor’s gate, as it happened Gondor survived this first ordeal but this is where I feel Mordor made it’s biggest mistake in the match. Gandalf survived several troll beatings with just a morsel of health and no heal/well left, but strangely this went unnoticed and he lived to fight another day. A single swoop from the WK and the game would’ve been over within 5 mins, as there was nothing else left bar towers to defend his base. Maybe Grenness is so used to keeping WK at the back away from any archers but in this game he could’ve had an even bigger role to play, unless knights are now able to do damage to him!

For the future I’d recommend that Mordor pays slightly more attention to enemy heroes and when best to attack them (e.g. after powers). As for Gondor, I’d recommend he reads the changelogs. And again. And again…

Entertainment Value: 4

Overall Rating: 4

One player plays a 6 and the other a 4 and it gets a 4? 5 imo

Entertainment was 4 too,

It's a borderline 4/5, but it gets a 4 due to it being quite predictable from the start and not very long.

1. haradrim is early game units!! they die to horses with shields pretty easy
2. orcs?? they give me pp imo
3. good point but its damned difficult to eat orcs sometimes
4. wk is for ld most of the time
5. i know

The reviewer is totaly right - i m stuck un 1.02 with gondor - never thought boromir was any powerful

oh well with getting tower up fefore attack andnot when trolls allready knock on walls and getting archers faster i might have had a chance

but grenne used orcs very clever and i was kinda slowed down

I usually try establish an outpost with towers and fara where mordor can waste units while i get strong

ya and having loads of money without using it isnt way to win i guess

So do orcs, and at least level 2 hara will cripple the horses more or be garrisoned in an outpost to cause even more damage



Yes, but they gave him PP too and PP is far more crucial to him than it is to you. He may not have had GTW if you hadn't of done this, whereas you would easily get darkness.


Agreed


Most of the time, yes. But he had no archers and only a couple of normal towers, no threat to the WK IMO.