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[R] EvilEgg vs. Grant

#1CorkscrewBlow  Sep 17 2006, 23:43 PM -
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A game I played with my friend. We've been going head-to-head starting the last few days of the Beta.

I've been disheartened with airborne since Rangers are way fucking better, so I switched to Inf. Everyone uses Armor these days. Riflespam + some light vehicles + Calliope. YAWN.

In this match, I'm INF and he's Terror. We start out fairly even, but he starts taking more and more of my territory and is able to hold me off with Tier 1 while he goes for Ostwinds to counter my infantry. I apparently suck and let him get Ostwinds. Some mines slow him down, but eventually I'm forced to do a suicide run with an APC and 2 Ranger squads to hit his base to slow him down and preempt him from hitting my base.

At this point, he has 85% of the map under control. He spams Panzers and I have virtually nothing, 1 sherman. It's a GG in the end b/c I outmicro him and get 2 M10s off an off-map support group.


PLEASE tell me what I am doing wrong, my friend's not that good at this game but he really pinned me down territory wise with just tier 1.

THANKS!
#2defimus  Sep 18 2006, 08:00 AM -
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Insane comeback! Awesome job, Grant. I thought you were done on two seperate ocassion, and you managed to weasel yourself out of a loss. Great game.
#3Darth Zaxis  Sep 18 2006, 12:02 PM -
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IPB Image Grant(aka CorkscrewBlow) vs EvilEgg IPB Image
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IPB ImageGrant(aka CorkscrewBlow)

BO: WSC->mg x2
Barrack->rifle x2, jeep, rifle, jeep
mortar pool->HT, AT
tank depot->sherman x2

smilie_naughty.gif use jeep to kill sniper
smilie_naughty.gif picks up weapons(bazookas)
smilie_naughty.gif good mines placement
smilie_naughty.gif good use of ranger to flank tanks

cry.gif early game, you nearly lose your rifleman to unupgraded volks, unupgraded volks are really good at long range.
cry.gif turtling cry.gif
cry.gif ranger bazooka rush

you win not because you out micro him, your micro is ok, atleast you have proper facing, but when retreating, make sure you click few inches behind your tank, so they will reverse not 180 turn.
you are already lost if this game was VP, because you turtling, its better to not turtle because ranked game are all vp.
my advice to you is:
1 dont turtle
2 be more offensive, harassive


Rating: 4/10


----------ALMIGHTY SPACER----------


IPB ImageEvilEgg

BO: wq->mg,volks,mg,sniper,volks x2, sniper, volks
Panzer command-> ostwindx2, panzerIV spam, some more ostwind

smilie_naughty.gif good use of cover for volks
smilie_naughty.gif op early for armour spam
smilie_naughty.gif ostwind fast

cry.gif when jeep attack your sniper, you should stick your sniper in nearby building, because your mg garrison nearby will kill jeep quickly
cry.gif you didnt move away when artillery is called on your panzerIV(cost you the game)
cry.gif extreemly poor tank micro
cry.gif V1 rockets your own tiger ace(cost you another game)

you have potential, work on your tank micro abit, and try not hit your tiger ace with V1 again. i have to rate you 2, because the mistakes you made are sooo major.
other than the stupid mistakes you made, you played pretty well, dominates everything untill your panzerIV died to his arty.

also, PanzerIV is a sucky tank in coh, someone did extensive test on it, and prooved it to be the most inaccurate tank in the game, you should have built panther however, it costs alot more, but worth every penny, 2 PanzerIV cant kill 2 shermans, but 1 panther can take on 3 shermans.


Rating: 2/10


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This game proves PanzerIV to be the most useless tank in coh, and how V1 rocket your own tiger is a bad thing..

Entertainment Rating: 3/10
Overall Rating: 3/10


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volks killing rifleman in long range with heavy cover
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carving my name on the wall with mg
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This post has been edited by Zaxis of Heroes: Sep 18 2006, 13:24 PM
#4CorkscrewBlow  Sep 18 2006, 14:07 PM -
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QUOTE(Zaxis of Heroes @ Sep 18 2006, 08:02 AM) *


cry.gif early game, you nearly lose your rifleman to unupgraded volks, unupgraded volks are really good at long range.
cry.gif turtling cry.gif
cry.gif ranger bazooka rush



Thanks and good analysis but I will dispute two points if I might:

1.) Volks are good at long range but so are Rifles. The rifles got fucked up b/c he's in green cover and I am in orange. That stone wall appears signficantly safer than a tractor, with some guys lying on the ground. I really should have retreated them earlier but a 2nd rifle squad was en route and BAR upgrade was almost done. In fact it finished in time to pin those Volks and force them to retreat.

2.) Bazooka rush with HT was good choice in my opinion, killed 2 structures to slowed his production of tank counter (Panzer IV). I should not have lost the HT but I did manage to save 4 members of the 2nd Ranger squad. Imagine if I hadn't done that and therefore was like 2 minutes away from my first Sherman by the time he rolled into my base with 2 Ostwinds. No coming back from that GG.

PS
As amusing as the shot is of the MG shooting the church point-blank, if you're going to do screenshots, where are the Kodak moments like when EvilEgg drops a V1 on his own Tiger Ace?
This post has been edited by CorkscrewBlow: Sep 18 2006, 14:29 PM
#5Darth Zaxis  Sep 18 2006, 15:13 PM -
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1 rifleman not as good as volks in long range, it is tested that if they both in same cover, volks win in long range
you could have your rifleman standing next to the wall aswell, you get green cover too and close range.

2 not saying its bad, but its not a good practice to do bad stuff, which ruins cinematic feel of the game

as for screenshot, V1 rocket blast is too fast to take screen, i dono he droped on his tiger, i thought he is dropping on your hq, but he droped on his tiger cry.gif
#6CorkscrewBlow  Sep 18 2006, 19:14 PM -
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QUOTE(Zaxis of Heroes @ Sep 18 2006, 11:13 AM) *


2 not saying its bad, but its not a good practice to do bad stuff, which ruins cinematic feel of the game



You're not saying its bad, you're saying that its not good to do bad stuff. Eh? Wtf does that mean, exactly?

Also I know I'm no expert, but you lost me with the ruining of the "cinematic feel" part. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I don't get what you're saying about the Ranger rush.

I know there are no World War II movies where Ranger squads hop into APCs for what's effectively a suicide mission, driving past frantic enemy bunker gunners, then leaping out to blow up buildings with their bazookas, having no regard for their own safety.

But that shit sure works in a game.

He had 2 Ostwinds about to hit my base, where all I had was 1 AT Gun. The Ranger rush forced him to pull those Ostwinds back and allowed me time get out a Sherman.

If I didn't rush, I'd be fighting 2 Ostwinds in my base with 2 Ranger squads and 1 AT Gun. That fight would be in his favor, and he'd also be pumping out more Ostwinds and Panzers having suffered no resource loss or building slowdown.
#7Darth Zaxis  Sep 19 2006, 11:31 AM -
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well my job is to review games, and there is an entertainment rating.
if something breaks the game away from cinematic experience, then its a bad thing, but it might not be a bad thing to win the game
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