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#1LuckyStilet  Nov 9 2023, 18:22 PM -
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Guys call MH after schwim scout when see MG from WSC biggrin.gif
#2LuckyStilet  Nov 9 2023, 18:24 PM -
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#3Leveltake  Nov 10 2023, 14:51 PM -
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This noob allways calls maphack. I offered him SS and start stream even a picture/video of myself playing he still crys mh. Dont take it seriously
#4Volkl  Nov 16 2023, 09:53 AM -
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I watched the replay. The schwim does gain legitmate sight on the enemy sniper and then proceeds towards last known location around the 3 minute mark after the sniper cloaks.

HOWEVER, I did find this scouting maneuver suspicious. The schwim is being repaired mid-field at 2:35. The first US sniper hits the field ~2:40. A few seconds later the schwim takes off towards the US HQ like it's on a mission despite being at just 60% health and running through MG fire. I can understand the reaction by the US player.

Really odd that you would send a heavily damaged Schwim on a reconnaissance mission on just a hunch. Yes, you knew the US went with a WSC start and could have anticipated that a sniper was likely. This incident could be totally innocent. The other one linked below could also be totally innocent. But you have my curiosity piqued now. I also noticed you showed no hesitation to cap with snipers yet it took a precisely timed air recon run to counter-snipe you. Just observations, still all within the realm of potentially legitimate play.

https://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes...10#post10511060
#5Volkl  Nov 17 2023, 08:14 AM -
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OK, having watched the replay again today, I am increasingly troubled with what I saw. At 5:40 you lay a mine near the +10 fuel on the right side. Your pios then head to the fuel point presumably to cap but spontaneously retreat at 5:58 for no apparent reason. Your snipers also pull back suddenly to the building cluster at the far north.

There was a bren carrying a squad as well as recon squad on foot heading straight towards the fuel point. But it was in the fog of war and you had no legitimate vision on it. Your last glimpse of the bren was near its HQ rounding the ammo point. Leaving a +10 fuel in the hands of the enemy on a mere hunch that an army might be headed your way is not an explanation I find plausible. Virtually any legit experienced player is going to try to decap that fuel and only run when something actually shows up. We are no longer talking about just one isolated incident in a single replay.

Also watched another of your replays on Duclair. It too was disturbing. You went Infantry Company but did not make a barracks until 34:11. You did, however, make multiple 105s around the 12-minute mark. At 11:51 you told your teammate "2 105 and gg". You two then discussed making armor (sherman or m10s?). And your first two barrages landed directly on the enemy paks. My recollection is that they were well behind the front lines and unrevealed. I'll review again. All three 105s quickly ramped up to vet 3 (excluding the one lost to V1) and you were proud of the arty kills you had, 50 each on average. It takes quite a bit of luck to spam 105s, ignore rifles, and beat very experienced opponents. Will add more when I have time to thoroughly review.


https://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes...=0#post10537799
#6Volkl  Nov 19 2023, 08:13 AM -
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Have reviewed the Duclair replay more thoroughly and still find it troubling as well (see link below). Do you care to address any of these observations Lucky Stilet? You mocked a player for having concerns about your gameplay; I think it's only fair to expect you to respond.

https://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes...=0#post10568830
#7LuckyStilet  Nov 24 2023, 03:54 AM -
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OK, having watched the replay again today, I am increasingly troubled with what I saw. At 5:40 you lay a mine near the +10 fuel on the right side. Your pios then head to the fuel point presumably to cap but spontaneously retreat at 5:58 for no apparent reason. Your snipers also pull back suddenly to the building cluster at the far north.

I saw bren. I saw bren heading towards mid. I no units to cover snipers and I teching T2.
Also I noticed that evenmy team is under level so I started to play safer.
#8LuckyStilet  Nov 24 2023, 04:00 AM -
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Also you can hear bren in the fog of war. I had only two snipers just chilling.
Guess what I am doing? I calculating risk.
Reasons to retreat pio: snipers could be close, hid from bren that mines can be there, I needed 1 pio to repair schwim and other to put in the HT
#9Volkl  Nov 24 2023, 04:32 AM -
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QUOTE(LuckyStilet @ Today, 19:54 PM)
OK, having watched the replay again today, I am increasingly troubled with what I saw. At 5:40 you lay a mine near the +10 fuel on the right side. Your pios then head to the fuel point presumably to cap but spontaneously retreat at 5:58 for no apparent reason. Your snipers also pull back suddenly to the building cluster at the far north.

I saw bren. I saw bren heading towards mid. I no units to cover snipers and I teching T2.
Also I noticed that evenmy team is under level so I started to play safer.



QUOTE(LuckyStilet @ Today, 20:00 PM)
Also you can hear bren in the fog of war. I had only two snipers just chilling.
Guess what I am doing? I calculating risk.
Reasons to retreat pio: snipers could be close, hid from bren that mines can be there, I needed 1 pio to repair schwim and other to put in the HT

You did not legitimately know where bren was headed it might have been going to middle VP for all you knew or doubled back to the left side. You knew where US snipers were because your schwim had just tried attacking them.

Are you telling me that you are fine capping a +5 ammo and a front-line VP point with your SNIPERS, but not willing to risk a two-man pio squad decapping the enemy's PRIMARY source of fuel (+10) at the start of the game??? A +10 fuel and you are afraid to de-cap it because enemy snipers MIGHT be nearby even though you spotted two of his snipers way back at the Brit HQ just seconds ago.

Why was repairing the schwim now an urgent task that a single pio squad already at your HQ was not sufficient and it required retreating your 2nd pio squad? You stopped repairing your schwim earlier and sent it on a mission at 60% health but now you need to abort decapping the most prized enemy sector on the map (+10 fuel) to expedite repairs??? What do you take me for?

UPDATE - your damaged schwim arrived back at your HQ at the same time your pio squad just completed the Krieg Barracks. Very clear from replay that you could repair the schwim with just one pio squad in the time you had waiting for the halftrack to be produced. There was zero need to retreat the other pio squad for repairs. You are throwing a lot of spaghetti at the walls to justify your actions and it shows.

UPDATE 2 - Even if you had the best sound system in the world and the luxury of hunting for bren engines in the fog of war, AT MOST it would tell you the location of the bren. NOT THE DIRECTION. The location of the bren when you retreated your pioneers does not justify a retreat. Only the angle of its heading, if visible, would merit retreating.
This post has been edited by Volkl: Nov 24 2023, 18:05 PM
#10Volkl  Dec 7 2023, 03:19 AM -
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Just checking in, can any ranked experts rationalize LuckyStilet retreating his engineer squad at 5:58 rather than capping the high fuel based on what was legitimately known at the time?
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